Thread: New wing tests
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Old 3 Aug 2010, 00:00 (Ref:2738500)   #28
manwell
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manwell should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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Originally Posted by duke_toaster View Post
It's just common sense. The rules are that movable aerodynamic devices (including intentionally flexing wings) are banned. To quote Rick Astley, you know the rules and so do I. The rules also say that the FIA can tweak the tests to make sure that we don't get flexiwings. That's what the FIA have done.
Thats not what the rules are. Movable aerodynamic devices ARE allowed.
Actually SPECIFICALLY the front wings.
Yes a slightly different situation, but they are allowed.

And yes they are allowed to flex. The FIA even state this in their technical manual that they are allowed to flex 10mm at 50kg's. Red Bulls do, so they comply.

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Originally Posted by Rory View Post
Why is it a shame GTRMagic? I see RB gaining an unfair advantage here. As other have said, flexible wings are outlayed.... just because it doesn't flex to that extent during a test, does not mean it is not flexing during the race. Any idiot can see the advantage they are gaining. And rumours of the floor flexing as well.... it's little wonder they have downforce levels out of this world.

It's a bit like having some trick engine that pokes out 19,000rpm on a test rig and FIA test, but put on the track, somehow mamages to produce another 1000rpm. Sure, they passed the FIA tests but it's cheating in my book, same as the rule that says 85mm above floor.
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Originally Posted by Fox89 View Post
This isn't like double diffusers or F-Ducts which are technically legal because, although creative, they still comply to the wording of the regulations. This is about something technically illegal that passes a test.

Would you still call it "winging" if Red Bull had fitted a turbo to their engine and simply found a way to hide it from scrutineers? Or would you consider that gaining an unfair advantage?
Rory and Fox 89, every part of a car changes from when its static in parc feme to when its flying down the straight.

For instance, the FIA has a specific tyre size you must use, but dont you think a 245/55 R13 tyre would elongate to a larger diameter when doing 300km/h? That would be outside the rules in "your book" wouldnt it?

Did you not see the view out the back of Alonso's car at Hungary, the "sharks fin" was wobbling from side to side. Its an aerodynamic device and its moving. Against the rules?

The FIA understands that no part of the car is completely stable and thus gives parameters to keep inside.
The parameter for the front wing is 10mm flex at 50kg.
Red Bull complied with that, so whatever "your book" says... no they are NOT cheating.
So they do comply with the wording of the regulations, just like a double diffuser of F-duct.
Hence for every race this season they have passed scruitineering.

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