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Old 17 Jun 2022, 17:03 (Ref:4116128)   #2246
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canaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcanaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin View Post
Ref the HPd etc BoP - BoP is BoP - HPD engined cars ran in ACO series against the Judds and Nissans

Ref the timing of the regs - remember that ACO will have been aware of the plans of the potential entrants from Dome/ BR before the rules for 2017 were finalised - I can tell you that it was VERY clear indeed that these were 'unwelcome' projects.

Ref plans for LMP1 version of the car - and there was a parallel plan for the Strakka car - I can speak to the Stakka reasons for not going forward - and wrote about it https://www.dailysportscar.com/2020/...103b-lmp1.html

Sorry, but no, ESM and MSR ligier-HPD that ran in IMSA 2016 used the HPD 3.5L V6 turbo, an enlarged version of the 2.8L engine used in ACO lmp2, the same engine later used in acura dpi. Both are enlarged and racing tuned version of an old unit used in cars like honda accord iirc.
That 3.5L engine was used only in IMSA because it wasn't allowed in ACO WEC/ELMS/LM where the only engines allowed were the nissan-zytek 4.5L V8, the bwm-judd 3.6L V8 and the HPD 2.8L V6 turbo.
ACO nissan/bmw/HPD powered lmp2 were in the range of 500-520hp, the ESM/MSR ligier-HPD were by bop in the same dp range of 550-560hp, that's why that car wax extremely competitive during 2016 IMSA and it isn't comparable to ACO lmp2 cars.
Unlike BR01 data that is not so easy to discover around, you can fact-check the IMSA ligier-HPD in a couple of minute.

You're writing nothing new... dome, zytek, wirth and many others revealed lmp1 and lmp2 coupè projects in early-mid 10's but none of them managed to see the sunlight. I usually don't comment things I don't know, and of course ACO made the 4 manufacturers rule to make lmp2 class more somehow standardized, cost controlled and overall better organized. I just find unlikely they made that because they were scared by failure private projects like dome-strakka, kind of cars that ACO couldn't however prevent to run in lmp1 if they were made with homologable chassis since there have been lmp2 with lmp1 specs chassis before 2017 like oreca05, adess lmp2 and br01.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong about this, it's I just can't give a better opinion.
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