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Old 6 Jun 2013, 13:36 (Ref:3258513)   #358
Duddha
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Duddha should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDuddha should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDuddha should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
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Originally Posted by Mike Bell View Post
I'm back and disagree! This is my take- The car cannot be a Gp2 RS1600 (which is what it was entered as) and have a Pinto based Holbay engine of 2litres or any other capacity. That spec does not appear in the RS1600 homologation papers.

BUT as you say Ford did include it on the RS2000 papers, even though there is no evidence I am aware of that it was used in period in a MK1 RS2000. Sadly we seem to be reaching a situation with the FIA where parts can be used even though no period proof is available. also, if an Escort is to be presented with this engine, it should also conform to other RS2000 homologation, which will include 20mm thick brake discs, bubble arches only and no front spoiler. I would need to clarify the use of a ZF 5speed g/box as this is included and then crossed out on the homologation papers.

Further to the above, I have been advised that new 'Holbay' engines can be built using an American 2.3 litre bottom end and give 300bhp! This is something that organisers will need to be aware of if more cars are presented with this engine type. One car is being built with 'Holbay' lump in the UK at present.

My RS1600 may not be period but is fundamentally period correct. Naturally it is the organisers perogative to accept cars or refuse them, but it would be disappointing to see a promising intitial race turn into a series for a mismatch of cars. But as ever I will vote with my feet when the time comes!

Hi Mike,

I agree with you the car wasn't a Gp2 RS1600. And that's my mistake on the entry list.

As said by the owner of the car, the car was built using a loophole as there are no proof that the part was used in period, even if it's in the FIA Homologation form.

For the other stuff on the car such as the gearbox, I would say that it's like other cars and FIA Form, unclear.

Regarding the new "Holbay" engine being built, I know it and fortunatelly at the moment, I think Claude's car is the only one arround (at the moment).

As you said, we can accept or refuse the cars but of course as it was a first time for us and touring cars, we're learning the little subtilities of the touring
car category.

And don't hesitate to discuss it directly with us as well !

PS: The car you are discussing is French but we treat everyone the same way.
And the ones who know me from l'Age d'Or will understand I'm 50% English.
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