[the youth]

Originally Posted by Dave Brand

What you're saying, I think, is that you'd have liked a stationary yellow at Island In, the flag point before the Island loop? I see your point - Island Out, the flag point before Shell In, isn't ideally placed in that respect, but unfortunately Shell In isn't visible from Island In, so Island Out is something of a necessary evil.

yes basicly thats what i was trying to say, im not familier with all the corner names as that was my first visit.. great place!!

steve