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Originally Posted by Razzzor

Agree with all of that. I feel that Bottas has been a bit overhyped over the years, I don't think he'd do any better at Ferrari than Kimi does. Sainz could be faster than then both, however he's definitely been left it Verstappens shadow. I don't ever really remember being impressed by Sainz in a grand prix. Has he ever been close to getting a DOTR on here? Verstappens had it a number of times. I know people keep saying Sainz is just as good as Verstappen, but I'm not seeing it.

Grosjean deserves a better drive, as does Magnussen so we can see what he's got. Hulkenbergs shares have gone now since he's been partnered with Perez, and I must admit Alonso's shares have also gone down a bit after he's failed to really stand out over Button.

Sainz in a better seat in 2017? About the only thing I could see is a Williams. He'll have to properly beat Kyvat though.

Based on the Monaco performances and results we might have to call a lot of your post into question?