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I am positive Barrie that Chateaux used a car at teh same time as Saby, Saby's was blue wih all sorts of stupid wings, maybe 88, and Chateauz did but that one, but he also used one before that, muti coloured, is on one of the videos somewhere??
Dont know of anyone else using an S4, there are a few being used currently in hillclimb and theya re quite highly deveoped.
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