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Old 15 Oct 2010, 14:20   #1
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DTM USA; Looks like its happening in 2013!

Via good old Autosport!

I think I see what's happening here; DTM in the USA, DTM in Europe, DTM/Super GT in Asia?

DTM Global Series?!?

Seems like WTCC/GT1/F1/LMIC better watch out, there's a new kid on the global stage!

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Anyway ignoring rampant speculation, looks like the DTM wants to go to the USA in 2013. New manufacters anyone?
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Old 15 Oct 2010, 15:36   #2
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Although the thought is interesting, I've never been a firm believer. Primarily because GA doesn't seem to thrive in scenarios requiring cooperation.
With the likelihood of GT3 chassis (or some *******ised variant) becoming eligible for GrandAm competition next year, one would assume the adoption of DTM rules would be of little significance to manufacturers with GT3 chassis already available.

After all, Audi, Mercedes, and BMW have GT3 chassis available, and with a likelihood of potential categories in both the US and Japan for 2011, I don't see why the DTM merger is necessary (from GA's perspective).

If the move is successful it could have far reaching ramifications.
The ALMS may as well farewell any chance of future Audi (although that's a foregone conclusion) or BMW participation.

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So that would make it the "ATM" then?
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I'm quite excited by this announcement.

What's going on with Grand Am though? I can see NASCAR finding a DTM based series with heavy backing from the Euro and Japanese factories a lot more marketable than the current GA plan to American road racing fans but I can't see them sacrificing their own baby for it either.

It appears a massive sea change in global motorsports is in the making, 2014/15 could be very interesting years for the sport as a whole.
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I'm quite excited by this announcement.

What's going on with Grand Am though? I can see NASCAR finding a DTM based series with heavy backing from the Euro and Japanese factories a lot more marketable than the current GA plan to American road racing fans but I can't see them sacrificing their own baby for it either.

It appears a massive sea change in global motorsports is in the making, 2014/15 could be very interesting years for the sport as a whole.
Most likely (IMO) $$$ to help subsidize GA. That and an international helping hand (down the road) for NASCAR.
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It appears a massive sea change in global motorsports is in the making, 2014/15 could be very interesting years for the sport as a whole.
Absolutely, pretty exciting stuff!
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I was a huge DTM fan back in the 1990's and I remember about 1994 or so there was talk of a US round which never came to pass. From about 1993-1998 you could watch all the DTM and supertouring races from Germany with an english overdub/commentary here in the USA on a channel that ended up becoming Fox Sports. The late 80's stuff was before my time, but I've watched some races from back then in recent times and that was great as well.

Now though the cars are too unrealistic and a bit plain and it just doesn't click for me.

Italian Superstars is more like it to me.

However, I'm open to ideas and will be open to this series, if it happens.
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If these manufacturers want it to happen then it more then likely will.

But i think it's an awfull idea. Imo DTM is an overpriced factory touring car championship, and a national one that is. There is no need to expand the serie either in Europe (with WTCC & BTCC) or the US. If Mercedes, Audi and BMW want to race and spent 50 million+ each, i'd much rather see them enter Sportcars, Nascar or Indycar.
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I disagree. This makes perfect sense. BMW, Audi and Mercedes are the largest premium car brands in the world. What better than to run series showcasing 'suped up versions' of their cars in their three biggest markets - US, Germany and Japan. Indycar, sports cars or even F1 bear no relation whatsoever to the road going output of manufacturers... at least DTM looks somewhat like them. DTM is massively successful in Germany and if these additional series even garner a fraction of the attention in the US and Japan, they'll have made sense.
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I disagree. This makes perfect sense. BMW, Audi and Mercedes are the largest premium car brands in the world. What better than to run series showcasing 'suped up versions' of their cars in their three biggest markets - US, Germany and Japan. Indycar, sports cars or even F1 bear no relation whatsoever to the road going output of manufacturers... at least DTM looks somewhat like them. DTM is massively successful in Germany and if these additional series even garner a fraction of the attention in the US and Japan, they'll have made sense.
Imo DTM is succesfull in Germany because the manufacturers spent tens of millions in promotion of the events. I really don't think it in the cars. I'm very confident that if DTM was a serie with LMP1 or Superleague cars it would be way more popular (assuming the manufacturers would spent the same $ on promotion).

Apart from the manufacturers (through ITR) controlling the serie i see no advantage for going this route over entering in LMP1 or indycar.
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Road racing in general and Grand-Am in particular gets very little media interest in the US. I doubt this will do much to change that attitude.
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As long as NASCAR's around, I doubt any Touring Car series, however successful it is in Europe and other parts of the world, will succeed in America.
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DTM has one driver per car, 175-190km, 60-70min races. That has nothing to do with the current Grand-Am Rolex Series. In addition, it's sedans running, which have more sales than coupés.

The ACO shouldn't worry because they do endurance sports car races, not sprint touring car races.
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The ACO shouldn't worry because they do endurance sports car races, not sprint touring car races.
Agreed.
The question remains though why they cannot interest BMW (and Mercedes) to enter Le Mans. BWM and Mercedes could win at le mans with the money they are (going to) spend(ing) on DTM.
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why they cannot interest BMW
Herr Draeger said BMW is returning to its roots and it's touring car or silhouette racing, not sports cars.

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why they cannot interest Mercedes
They already have an expensive F1 toy.

Besides, BMW and Mercedes bosses have weidhed pros and cons before this step. If somebody thinks he's found some mistakes in their risk weighting then he should connect with Mario - maybe BMW Motorsport boss will change his mind, take his team out of that and employ that "somebody".
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