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I increasingly think IMG is doing what the FA Premiership did for football - creaming cash off the fans while gradually destroying the roots of the sport that made it.
We will end up with a TV sport that makes a few quid for a few years but at the expense of Lydden and the rest of the domestic rallycross community. Grassroots motorsport venues are dying in the UK - I would rather go to Wimbledon, Coventry and Lydden over Silverstone any day. This is just another nail in the coffin. |
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The situation at Wimbledon is fairly obvious, as with Coventry. The land there is worth tens of millions. the only sad part is that it has been sold to a football club that should not even exist, who have already dumped an old club from their ground in Kingston and have only got the permission because of a bunch of old boys and some promises on housing.
Coventry is rather different, if you knew much about it, you would know it was always going to be sold, again it is commuter belt for Brum and Cov in a lovely village and the land can hold praps 200 houses or 100 or so exec ones. It was always going to be sold, the guy who owned it told us so, what is wrong is the pathetic way it has all been done, smallville gangster style, which as it happens is not that far from the truth. Lydden as a venue is fairly secure. there is a lot of land there and much of it disused, but developing it into a car port or something would cost a lot, junctions would need to be made etc, and the locals would rather have a track than that I can assure you. What others have said is true, amalgamate the series, run in ireland and you might sow the seeds of future stability. or we continue as we are and go the same way as autocross. |
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Bit of a thread bump, Silverstone just put a pic up on their facebook page showing the start of the RX circuit construction. Looks like it will be on the infield around by the stowe short circuit.
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OK spent about half an hour perusing the rallycross track at Silverstone today as the WEC sessions were going on.
Good news is it is going to be mostly dirt. Bad news, there is a big US or Franciacorta style jump, and a very tight joker lap like Estering a real tight left and right. Start line looks separate but I think as it is on the Stowe circuit, the circuit are trying really hard to not get any dirt on their moneymaking area which is the Stowe circuit where you attend training days experience days etc. (such a con as it is sold that you are supposed to be at Silverstone when in reality you are on a tiny track in the facility) I can't yet work out where the transition is from the startline onto the dirt unless the track is anti clock, but if they are going anti clock then the jump is wrong as it is shallow entry side and steep the other, so it must be going the other way round. I reckon seriously 70% on dirt, it is hard packed yellow sandy dirt, and at the moment the track is lined with piles of dirt and the mud they used to trench out the track, whether this stays I don't know, but I expect so as it lines the track and prevents the cars digging up grass and going onto the Stowe surface. For those that know SIlverstone Stowe, the top hairpin looks like being used as the only tar part I can see, there is a transition before, then that tight right hairpin and then an immediate turn right onto dirt and into the jump, I think the start is alongside this where the pits are, (makes sense due to timing). As I say, the bit I don't get is were the startline transitions onto the dirt, unless they are starting on dirt! Or they are starting behind the Stow hairpin. |
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Those WEC's are seriously quick, I saw them last year for the first time in the flesh in Spa. How was the Jumbo car doing?
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Chunder beet me too it, was having a look around that part as well today and the one thing that surprised me was how small and tight the layout looked, also were will the spectator viewing be?
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Rallycross layouts on racing circuits are always tight and the tracks in overall tends to be really bad. The jumps are even messed up. How hard is it to build or at least design a decent track?
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They designed the Rallysprint so well back in 97. Why can't they do the same for a Rallyx circuit?
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At least they built it quick enough
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No idea where the start is, I think bottom left as that is towards the new Wellingtonish area of Silverstone. Or to the right of the gravel transition where the joker runde is. Bit opposite the building is the jump, its fairly big.
But as you can see not much tarmac, it's a lot bigger than this pic makes it look. AS for viewing I think behind that stand you see in the foreground and probably in the mowed area behind the the northern most parts of the track will be likely big stands. But I think more like Mettet sadly where you are penned in and can see an overall view rather than being close. That is utter shite for me. |
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That is a lot of gravel! Is it 40% really?
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If the only tarmac is that bit infront (I.e. the one corner) then it's tiny! And there are no overtaking spots. Especially as they have stupid kinks in the dirt, which ensures just one line
Plus side is that the diet looks really good. Proper dirt not tarmac. Maybe they will have a British round early next year to test the track? , |
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Looks like a go-cart circuit to me...
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Bert, looking at the jump face the track goes clockwise. the jump is opposite the building on the left and the face is shallow there and steep the other side.
It's fairly wide and very nice modern gravel. They don't want asphalt anywhere as then cleaning up is an issue. As this track is sued for corporate and training. Why on earth would anyone not want more gravel, Lydden is a shambolic rallycross track where only about 15% of the surface is loose, the rest is concrete and tarmac with gravel scattered over it that gets removed after practice! I will give it a chance. That is all. But even that depends on what program they put with the WRX cars. AS at the moment IMG seem to only put everything in certain rounds, a pathetic decision. |
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