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Old 3 Oct 2007, 17:07 (Ref:2030023)   #151
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This incident taken in whole is so unique --Webber's chance for a great podium --perhaps even a victory, dashed. Toro Rosso running closer to the front that anyone would've dreamed of. And then ---- "Bang"!!! --- it was over -- Vettel's drive was stellar until then and a great drive by Mark as well -- I really feel bad for Vettel -- what can you say except "Thats racing"
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Old 3 Oct 2007, 17:13 (Ref:2030030)   #152
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Amateur footage of the Crash!

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Old 3 Oct 2007, 20:25 (Ref:2030245)   #153
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what can you say except "Thats racing"
This is true.

Except we must have a villian, we must blame someone, preferably the person we don't like anyway.
Is that the same as jab's youtube link?

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Old 3 Oct 2007, 20:46 (Ref:2030259)   #154
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Webber tells it like it is!

LOL... Webber tells Louise Goodman what he thinks of Vettel. She was caught on the hop here

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/23...inks-of-vettel
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Old 3 Oct 2007, 21:07 (Ref:2030274)   #155
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Old 3 Oct 2007, 23:36 (Ref:2030377)   #156
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but not head poppingly outrageous?
Think of Spock raising one eyebrow in surprise.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 00:20 (Ref:2030394)   #157
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Think of Spock raising one eyebrow in surprise.
And uttering those immortal words: "There are Klingon's on the starboard bow".
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 01:58 (Ref:2030420)   #158
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from the footage, i'd say theres a lot to do with hamilton braking like that in the corner entry, although he was very close to the safety car but he braked hard and in the wrong spot. as if making way for the rest to come by, so I can see what vettle said about thinking hamilton having a problem because he was going really slow.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 04:14 (Ref:2030474)   #159
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but Vettel should of been concentrating on the car in front (Webber) instead of worring about Hamilton, just inexperience.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 05:24 (Ref:2030492)   #160
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Realistically, concentrating on Hamilton isnt flawed. Hes the one darting around, hammering on the brakes and drifting across the track. The mistake was not also paying attention to Webber.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 05:45 (Ref:2030498)   #161
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Yes, but he should have been aware of Hamilton, just like driving in heavy traffic you need to lift the eyes and be aware of what’s happening further up the road than the piece you are about to drive over. He should be aware of both cars actions.

Here’s another thought: given the way Hamilton slowed so drastically and veered to the outside of the left-hand corner, I wonder what would have happened if Webber had passed him with the excuse that he thought Hamilton was pulling off with a problem? Apart from Hamilton quickly resuming his position (and jumping on the radio…)
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 09:02 (Ref:2030610)   #162
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Sorry if this has been posted, but Webber is blaming Hamilton for the accident.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...ton-for-crash/
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 09:19 (Ref:2030620)   #163
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He's changed his tune...
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 09:24 (Ref:2030624)   #164
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An Australian blaming a Pom for something? Jeez, there's a shock. Still upset about Jonny, I see...
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:04 (Ref:2030642)   #165
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so by "kids and how do a good job and then **** it all up" he meant Hamilton not Vettel interesting, also using another naughty word **** seems to still be upset maybe what i said previously might be true and he isn't over it.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:09 (Ref:2030644)   #166
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Think of Spock raising one eyebrow in surprise.
he he

So from Down F0rce's link; do we need a minimum age in F1?
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:17 (Ref:2030655)   #167
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Now being investigated by the stewards

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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:20 (Ref:2030661)   #168
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ooo, just come abck to post that:
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An FIA spokesman confirmed that the stewards were looking into the matter.

"New evidence has been brought to the stewards attention and they are currently investigating the matter," he said.
ooo, new evidence. An email from Alonso perhaps
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ooo, just come abck to post that:

ooo, new evidence. An email from Alonso perhaps
Perhaps he posted that YouTube video
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:26 (Ref:2030666)   #170
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I thought at the time that Lewis' driving behind the safety car was very marginal safety wise, he was doing some schumacher @ monaco 2004-esque random braking at odd moments.

In fact, I thought at any moment a car was going to rear end him such was the erratic nature of his driving.
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Stewards to look into Hamilton' behaviour behind SC

Stewards want to speak to Lewis Hamilton Following Spectator footage which shows him pulling over and slowing dramatically behind the SC in the lead upto the Webber/Vettel incident.

Here's a link to the story, as well as the video. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62978

Could Lewis be punished with a Grid penalty if the stewards think he was a contributing factor to the accident? Will this also see Vettel's penalty annulled?
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:45 (Ref:2030678)   #172
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Having looked at the YouTube video Hamiltons driving does seem a little odd but defendable i.e. he got caught out by the safety car breaking and had to run to the right, was waiting for everybody to sort themselves out rather than chop back to the left and cause an accident.

But can the stewards / FIA resist the temptation to dock him 10 places and try and take the championship down to the final race? I dont think so.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 10:45 (Ref:2030679)   #173
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But....Vettel ran into the back of Webber! Hamilton was on the other side of the track...how can the accident be Hamilton's fault? They were going through the slowest part of the track at that point, cars will always be acellerating and braking at different points and Vettel should have been paying attention!

If Hamilton gets a penalty for this I think I will lose whatever little faith I have left in this sport.
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I doubt he will get penalised, but maybe Vettel should not get his grid drop??

In both re-starts, i thought that Lewis's behaviour was "poor", he did the same sort of thing to Alfonso at the first start.
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agreed staid davenport, But i feel from the spygate alot of people have already lost there faith in the FIA/ F1 as a sport.
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