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Old 24 Apr 2012, 12:43   #391
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Blatant example of the pro-British bias in F1. You could guarantee that if a Ferrari driver did that, he'd be penalised.
Just wow.
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Old 24 Apr 2012, 13:09   #392
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Old 24 Apr 2012, 13:12   #393
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If we are going to be that precise: when a driver leaves the track, he should enter it again at the same position, wich was obviously far away from where he did rejoin the track. He should have put the car in reverse, try to guess where he was when he left the track and rejoin over there.
Offcourse that would be rediculous and dangerous, so just giving the place back to Rosberg would be a nice compromise.
Indeed it would be ridiculous and dangerous - and in fact a breach of the rules which (paraphrased) state that a driver should rejoin safely in a manner which does not impede other competitors, and also that driving against the normal circuit direction isn't permitted. But hey, that's just hair splitting

However, regarding precision: if you read the steward's decision on both of Rosberg's moves, they were *incredibly* precise in their wording. Which, as they were dealing with fact and not supposition, is exactly as it should be.

The stewards weren't asked to investigate an off-track overtake, because on review of the incident - there wasn't one.

If Hamilton had deliberately moved off the circuit, unprovoked, and overtaken Rosberg then I could understand everyone calling for his head on a platter... but he didn't, so I don't!
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Old 24 Apr 2012, 13:26   #394
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....... if you read the steward's decision on both of Rosberg's moves, .........
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ruin a good rant by the regulars?
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Blatant example of the pro-British bias in F1. You could guarantee that if a Ferrari driver did that, he'd be penalised.
Uhn... utterly nonsense.
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Take a look at these and then tell me why you think that Rosberg forced Hamilton or Alonso off the track?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iQurrE15bA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OPOn...feature=relmfu

In both cases, Rosberg made one move, and in both cases the following car was either fully behind Rosberg (in the case of Hamilton) or not fully alongside (in the case of Alonso).
How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.

Greed before all else!
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How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.

Greed before all else!
Well, they did show that Rosberg did not force Alonso or Hamilton off the track. But now, you'll just have to take mine and the stewards word for that.
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How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.

Greed before all else!
It's because FOM doesn't understand new media, never have.

Other series not only allow fans to post copyrighted material online but post their own videos regularly. They will say it's about "protecting their intellectual property" but it's actually just petty and as you say, does very little to help the sport grow.
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It's because FOM doesn't understand new media, never have.

Other series not only allow fans to post copyrighted material online but post their own videos regularly. They will say it's about "protecting their intellectual property" but it's actually just petty and as you say, does very little to help the sport grow.
This is not limited in anyway to F1. There are thousands of examples of this. Lets not open that can of worms thought
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Comments on stewards decisions:

Hamilton v Maldanado - Maldanado drive through

Vergne v Kovi - double penalty to Vergne 10 space grid drop

Schumacher - using DRS under yellow - no penalty.
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Hamilton v Maldanado - Maldanado drive through

Vergne v Kovi - double penalty to Vergne 10 space grid drop

Schumacher - using DRS under yellow - no penalty.
That's F1 for you, these days....
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There was nothing wrong with MS using the DRS under Yellows.

Although I get the point about the Vergne and Maldonado penalties matching up.
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I'm actually surprised the DRS isn't disengaged if the engagement area is under yellow but if it isn't locked out and he doesn't complete the pass until clear of the yellow. The only thing I can think to make it a penalty is if there is a speed limit for yellow flag areas, ie pit lane speeds only through the area but thought it was just drive with caution and no passing.
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I'm actually surprised the DRS isn't disengaged if the engagement area is under yellow but if it isn't locked out and he doesn't complete the pass until clear of the yellow. The only thing I can think to make it a penalty is if there is a speed limit for yellow flag areas, ie pit lane speeds only through the area but thought it was just drive with caution and no passing.
If you watch the on board from MW, MS doesn't gain any distance on MW where it is yellow even tho the DRS is open. So he technically was slowing/holding pace which is what they care about not the use of DRS per se.
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