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Old 4 May 2012, 04:04   #1
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What's an F1 newbie to do?

So I've never really followed F1 before. I've been bitten by the bug, though, and I find myself trying to learn as much as I can. But while there is a wealth of information out there, there doesn't seem to be any guide to what a new fan "needs to know" - not in the sense of how race weekends work, flags, tyres, etc., but rather where do I watch F1, where do I get commentary, are there any particular races or incidents from the past that would be worth checking out (you can find a lot of amazing stuff on youtube these days), and that sort of thing. So what do you, people of 10 Tenths, think a new fan needs to know or might find valuable in enjoying F1?
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Old 4 May 2012, 04:21   #2
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Hmm i'm trying to go back to when I first got in to it (1997 onwards).

I used to be fascinated by the crashes (hey, I was a young lad!) and how these drivers and cars could withstand so much. I then went on to learn alot more about the tracks themselves and their safety changes they made over the years. This aspect is pretty fascinating. But saying that, I never used to have the benefit of things like YouTube and Wikipedia, so information was very much scattered.

I'd suggest checking out some of the historical features (on cars, drivers, races, tracks) on F1fanatic.co.uk - some great stuff there.

Perhaps watch some of the season reviews from the past, too. I found gradually working my way backward worked quite well. So do it in, say, 10 year jumps. Get some 2002 on, find out what Schuey was all about in his prime, check out those V10s screaming. Then back to 1992, bit of Ayrton, the supreme Williams of that season, a rookie Schuey. Then hark back to 1982, the season before big changes in regulations, the last of that era, unfortunately marred by tragedy. Although these images can be a sad picture, they did also shape the Formula One you know now.

That's what i'd do if I were to start over, anyway.

Have fun, there's alot of good people on here, so if you ever have any questions, please feel free to ask.

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Mark Webber : Webber to Renault joke. Now Webber to Ferrari. See RBR.

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Ayrton Senna. Idol of many F1 drivers. See Driving God or Racing Perfection.

Alain Prost: Logical racer. See Button.

DRS. Rear wing fiddling to make the car faster. See band aid passing.

KERS. Electricity that has magical powers that makes the car faster. See band aid passing.

Backmarker: Mobile chicane posing as a F1 team. See Hispania Racing Team or Marussia F1.

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Marussia F1: See backmarker.

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Band aid passing: See DRS, KERS or Pirelli.

Pirelli: Italian tyres, really sticky but they don't last. See band aid passing.

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One thing you should do if you're into racing yourself, get the latest F1 game, a steering wheel and pedals, and play the hell out of it.

You'll learn all the F1 tracks pretty well. Well, maybe not all, but the good ones. But you'll also learn racing lines and braking points and how it really all works.

Read up on all the history of the current drivers as well, so you know what their pasts are. And then start watching the old F1 races and season reviews.
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So I've never really followed F1 before. I've been bitten by the bug, though, and I find myself trying to learn as much as I can. But while there is a wealth of information out there, there doesn't seem to be any guide to what a new fan "needs to know" - not in the sense of how race weekends work, flags, tyres, etc., but rather where do I watch F1, where do I get commentary, are there any particular races or incidents from the past that would be worth checking out (you can find a lot of amazing stuff on youtube these days), and that sort of thing. So what do you, people of 10 Tenths, think a new fan needs to know or might find valuable in enjoying F1?
Everybody is new at one point. I was new in 2008, and wondering some of the same things.

To watch F1 with commentary, the Speed network is your friend. They don't have the full coverage that you would expect in Europe, but they do run live coverage of the second round of Friday Practice, Saturday qualifying, and the race on Sunday. Here in the States they're typically on early in the day, so a DVR is your friend, unless you can drag yourself out of bed early enough (or stay up late). I think Speed tends to rerun them later into the week during the afternoon, too. Their website also streams live coverage of the other practice rounds, although with no commentators.

To start brushing up on your F1 history, there's always Wikipedia. You don't need to learn everything all at once. If you're going to be following this for the long haul, you'll have plenty of time to learn bits here and there along the way. The Wikipedia article about F1 in general could be a good place to start, and then down at the bottom of the page is a list of "Formula One World Championship seasons". You can click on them to go to articles for each of those seasons. There's also plenty of books out there that cover the sport's history, like The Complete Book of Formula One which will take you through half a century of seasons, the teams, and their drivers, complete with loads of photos. Discussing the sport with other fans on boards like this one is another great place to ask about F1.

Some of the teams, like Ferrari and McLaren, have been in the game for a very long time (several decades) while others are relatively new (Red Bull), but then some of them have more confusing histories, having been one team before becoming another. For example, the current Mercedes team was previously Brawn GP in 2009, and Brawn GP came from Ross Brawn purchasing the older Honda team. The current Lotus team was previously Renault, and Caterham was Lotus last year. If you look through the past several decades, you see team names spring up and vanish into the history books along the way. Some of the key people at the various teams have also had interesting histories, going from team to team throughout their careers.

One driver that you need to know about is Ayrton Senna. There is a must-see film about him that came out a little while back. Another good film to watch is Grand Prix, which is an older film and focuses on a much older era of the sport, but you get to see some of the really old cars and older tracks, some of which we still race on today but in a different form. Grand Prix follows the story of some fictional drivers, but it included some real-world drivers.

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You should seriously think about visiting Montreal in June. Hearing and seeing these cars in person will change your life.
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You should seriously think about visiting Montreal in June. Hearing and seeing these cars in person will change your life.
Also there's the race on the brand new Austin, Texas circuit later this year. If S14 is indeed from the Rocky Mountain area of the US, Texas would be closer, and he'd get to watch a race on a brand new circuit that borrows from various European tracks. (His flag is of Ireland, however, so now I'm confused.)
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Also there's the race on the brand new Austin, Texas circuit later this year. If S14 is indeed from the Rocky Mountain area of the US, Texas would be closer, and he'd get to watch a race on a brand new circuit that borrows from various European tracks. (His flag is of Ireland, however, so now I'm confused.)
Texas may be closer but it's still Texas. Lived out there for a couple of years and, well, I'll be in Montreal for my F1 fix.
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The Piranha Club is well worth a read, plenty of detail about how some of the sports biggest names and rivalries came to be.

A few things to look up on You Tube...

Hakkinen's Double overtake.
The Start crash at Spa 98.
Jos Verstappen's Hockenheim Pit Fire.
Murray Walker Gaffes.
Senna and Prost Suzuka 89 & 90

And read up about the history of Ferrari, Lotus, McLaren and Williams. Between those four, you basically have the history of F1.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Dijon 1979. Wheel to wheel racing and they were only going for second spot. It's on youtube.

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Hi S14. Welcome to Ten-Tenths and to the joys of F1.

Some moments I'd recommend include Hungary 1997, when reigning world champion Damon Hill almost won the Hungarian Grand Prix in an Arrows. As a clip, it's arguably not much to watch and the German commentators in the clip you can find on a popular video site do not add much atmosphere, but he came within the failure of a 50p part of winning the Grand Prix. At least he won in a Jordan just over a year later at Spa. Yes, the Bridgestones were the tyres to have that day and very few teams were on them, but Damon was still on it that day like probably no-one else.

In more recent times, you have the conclusion of the 2008 championship, which if Sly Stallone had scripted it for his film, you would have said was almost as ridiculous as what actually happened in Driven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4skpT...eature=related

What about 1992 and Monaco? This was the first specific Grand Prix I remember seeing and the battle at the end was tense. Although Mansell never made it past Senna, having led most the way, there was always the thought he might just do it and the close rivalry lending it an exciting air. I was quite young at the time and remember how fun I thought it looked to race on tight streets. I remember how close Mansell came to the back of Senna in the chicane. These memories stick with you. Every fan will have their own.

Formula 1 of course goes back significantly further than that, and how about this brilliant clip of Jim Clark at Oulton Park from 1963: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ezp93fWNkw Just look at that suspension movement!

I will come back with more at a later point.

'Flat Out, Flat Broke' is a hilarious tale of motor racing woes by Perry McCarthy, who never got much of a chance to show his stuff in F1, but whose journey showed how he grafted and blagged (I do not mean that disrespectfully!) his way too the top.

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