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The championship would continue is some way, shape or form even if no TV channel bid on the rights. There will always been people 'up' for trying to win the ATCC/V8SCS or Bathurst titles. |
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Have a good look at the entry list and see how many of the drivers are there not because they are the best but because they can bring dollars.Compare this to the entry list from 15 years ago and you will find more pay drivers now and less paid drivers. The current TV deal helps prop up this house of cards for another 5 years.Decisions by sponsors about the value of the deal to them will be made with more rational,statistical business analysis than the hypothetical stuff being posted on this forum. The only real long term winner is a Queensland businessman who took over the sport,saw the fall coming,sold out at the top of the market(sweetening the deal by persuading the teams to give up control of their own business) and is no doubt laughing as he watches Archer and the teams fall into a financial black hole. By the way fantastic coverage of Clipsal Day 1 on Fox today. |
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Most rounds about 3% of the population watch the V8's race. At Bathurst, less that 10% of the population would tune in for the race.
This TV deal is significantly better for V8 fans, regardless of Foxtel penetration. Teams are better off, the Foxtel coverage is an incredible improvement and Ten will still be showing plenty of V8 racing. TV numbers will be down, but that reflects all TV shows and the switch from 7 to 10. Given that support categories now have TV exposure for all sessions, is that going to boost these categories and the health of Australian Motorsport? |
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In terms of what is broadcast on fta it is a big backwards step. Highlight packages for motorsport dont work - they fail to convey any tension or how a race evolves and only ever appear to show the unsatisfying elements - pit stops, crashes, pointless fluff interviews with drivers wag's etc etc. In other words the bits that dont build and sustain interest. The $40 million a year would be great if you are amongst those struggling for sponsorship but it will come at a huge cost to those in the market for $'s. It may be ok for niche companies who dont market to the masses (Say your Sargeant Security's or similar) but the likes of (To use some random, historical examples for the lol's) OXO Supercube or Blues Union or Coca Cola or any number of others would be unlikely to be more interested than before. How could they be? |
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If 10 schedule the highlights (as reported) at 5:00 on the day of the racing, there is real potential for the FTA ratings to be higher than has been the case, driven by the more casual fan who likes the concentrated action package of the highlights. I'll use the BTCC as an example - back when people raved about it and how awesome it was on TV, it was all highlights packages and it really drove Supertouring forward. We'll have to see how it pans out for the V8s but it may not be all doom and gloom. |
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By the same token Channel 9 & the NRL for years have copped criticism for the 4pm Sunday game being on only a 1hr delay, and this year the Sunday afternoon game is going live. It will ultimatly come down to how well edited the Sunday highlights on Channel 10/One are, and whether the 'flow' of a race can be kept. |
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An hours highlights package will be 15 minutes of adverts and opening/closing sequences (or more), cross promotion and fluff for another 10 or 15 minutes which gives you maybe 30 minutes to convey how many minutes of qualifying and racing? If a lap time runs to 1.30 for example you will rarely even get to see a complete lap in that. I will be surprised if they can manage to convey anything much of what happens to a 20 something car field. Cant imagine the sponsors of the midfield are licking their lips in anticipation of getting their brands on the tellie. Which is/was my other point. The package as agreed will damage the sponsorship opportunites for the teams. Bottom line is the channel 10 package is designed to be second rate and I cant understand why people are talking it up. |
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Sorry, I wasn't clear - people (lots of them) used to rave about the BTCC TV coverage and used the action packed nature of it as an example of what could and should be done here. Not a reference to the series itself which of course is not as strong as it once was (in our eyes here in Oz).
I'm going to wait and see how the highlights programs go before I assume that they'll be no good etc. If they ARE no good, it might be Foxtel time. Again, I'll say that the highlights packages may well not satisfy committed motor sport fans but MAY suit casual fans who don't care about seeing every lap, every subtle nuance etc. No point in talking anything down when no-one has seen it to understand it. |
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so so far the media package has been awesome. two days on foxtel and an hour highlights package on ch ten
last year on ch 7, we had nothing at this point (Thursday of Clipsal) By the end of the day (friday) we will have had 3 days of live on foxtel, 1 day live on ten and a 1 hour highlights package. Equivalent last year - None (maybe a news highlight if there was a crash) Curse that sponsorship under exposure (note dripping in sarcasm) |
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Probably a case of 'the grass is greener on the other side'. We always went mad over the coverage of Bathurst with interesting camera angles and all the in-car stuff.
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In general, when a sport goes to, mainly, pay tv, the viewership and popularity declines. Added to the fact that motorsport has suffered a general decline as well it will be interesting where the V8's are at in 5 years time.
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My reaction to the prospects of the highlights package was as much about not liking them and their shortcomings as much as the baseless positivity being spruiked by some. Unlike the Lego movie everything is not awesome. Imho. |
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Sitting here watching the Foxtel coverage. Must say the coverage is very good with a good selection of commentators for the various categories and the lack of ads is most welcome. The picture quality of the HD channel is fantastic.
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For the racing to be anything like the BTCC was back in it's hey day, the driving standards and the rules in relation to it would need to change.
But we're talking about how it's portrayed on the telly here, so it's kinda irrelevent. |
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