Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Classic Cars Monthly Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Historic Racing & Motorsport History > Motorsport History

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 Feb 2017, 13:40 (Ref:3709026)   #1
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Wheatcroft formula classic

Hello
I’m looking for informations , pictures , results , documents on Wheatcroft formula classic ; this serie have had no success I found only one two races during the classic endurance GT at Donington Sunday 7 / Monday 8 in the year 1995 , I know one race was win by Martin Donnelly but it’s all many thank’s for your help
Attached Thumbnails
_Donington-1995-05-08s.jpg   musée Donington 3.jpg   musée Donington.jpg  

bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2017, 14:32 (Ref:3709044)   #2
medius
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
England
Media Office hiding from the rain
Posts: 1,808
medius should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridmedius should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I believe most of the cars live in the museum basement.
medius is offline  
__________________
From redshoes: ''I have no idea who the second Team Hard driver is, and I suspect after the name is announced I'll be none the wiser.''
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2017, 15:04 (Ref:3709050)   #3
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
the cars was for sale on racecarsdirect in December , a lot of sold for the 2l5 Millington engine and the Borg Warner gearbox
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 08:02 (Ref:3709293)   #4
coppice
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Australia
Thirsk, North Yorkshire
Posts: 916
coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!
I saw the race and it had all the spectacle of drying paint. If you want to recreate the essence of a 250F why on earth would you put a straight four Ford engine in it ?
coppice is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 13:58 (Ref:3709377)   #5
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
may be the reason of the failure of this formula ? have you some pictures , results of the two races ?
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 16:01 (Ref:3709406)   #6
coppice
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Australia
Thirsk, North Yorkshire
Posts: 916
coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!
I haven't, but may still have the programme - which are you are very welcome to have . I will have a look for it.
coppice is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3709410)   #7
Andy Clegg
Racer
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 398
Andy Clegg should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I was there but couldn't remember the race. Always a good sign. I've the programme in front of me if you want anything scanned.
Andy Clegg is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 16:25 (Ref:3709414)   #8
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
oh nice Andy and Coppice many thank's a scan of the registered list will be welcome
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 17:34 (Ref:3709439)   #9
KA
Veteran
 
KA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,402
KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!
Just a thought- are we sure there was just one Formula Classic race (or pair of races) at the May BPRO GT meeting?. What makes me wonder about this is that I'm pretty sure I saw a Formula Classic race at Donington- but equally sure I wasn't at that May BPRO meeting.

Was there maybe a second, possibly at the DTM meeting in July, which I'm much more confident that I did attend?.

I'll have a search back through my old race programmes to see if I've got one for either the May BPRO or July DTM meetings. (Although Donington's my 'local' circuit, at that time I was living about 200 miles away, so only got there a handful of times a year)


Tom Wheatcroft talked about Formula Classic in his autobiography, 'Thunder in the Park' back in 2005- he said that the major problem was issues with the car and engine.

The engines were originally built by Holbay, who were already in financial troubles at the time they took on the contract, and eventually went bust after the death of founder John Read in a flying accident- by this time, Wheatcroft had written off the entire Formula Classic project (at a cost of £1.6m apparently), although some development work did apparently continue on the car for some time after the series was canned.

According to Tom, they ended up with 26 cars stored in the museum basement at Donington. He does also refer to them running a 'couple' of events, rather than just one.

Last edited by KA; 4 Feb 2017 at 17:38. Reason: Added more
KA is online now  
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 18:55 (Ref:3709483)   #10
andy97
Veteran
 
andy97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
United Kingdom
Castle Donington
Posts: 4,981
andy97 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridandy97 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I think there were 15 for sale as a job lot, as mentioned earlier.

Millington replaced the original Holbay engines, at more cost, and probably helped established Millington as a company so perhaps we should be thankful for that!
andy97 is offline  
__________________
Born in the Midlands, made in the Royal Navy
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2017, 22:28 (Ref:3709726)   #11
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I think you are right , certainly an other race , DTM in july may be ? have a look on you old programmes , it's will be nice if you fin d something , I read Martin Donnelly win the first race
Attached Thumbnails
1.jpg   2.jpg  
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 08:03 (Ref:3710060)   #12
coppice
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Australia
Thirsk, North Yorkshire
Posts: 916
coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!coppice is going for a new lap record!
YHM
coppice is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 08:32 (Ref:3710066)   #13
Andy Clegg
Racer
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 398
Andy Clegg should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Hi, sorry I don't have a list of the drivers. Hope this page helps!
Attached Files
File Type: pdf classic.pdf (5.85 MB, 46 views)
Andy Clegg is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 09:35 (Ref:3710076)   #14
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
many thank's Andy : never seen
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3710081)   #15
rbs
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
England
northampton
Posts: 2,095
rbs should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridrbs should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I have a list of drivers from Monday 8th May. This is as written in my programme.

2 Dave Hutchinson, 3 James Prochowski,4 Patrick Trucco, 5 Austin Kinsella, 6, Guido Basile, 7 Geoff Farmer, 8, Mike Wrigley, 9, Martin Donnelly, 10 Rick Hall, 11 Bill Shepherd, 12 Paul Mather,14, Rob Gray,16 Peter Hardman, 17 Perry McCarthy, & 18 Mark Newman.

I have also written in the finishing order as, 9, 18, 4, 16, 17, 12, 3, 11, 10 , 14.

It also lists the races going to Osterreichring, Brno, Zandvoort, Zolder, Nogaro, Zandvoort again, Paul Ricard & finishing at Donington on October 21/22. There was no race in the final Donington programme though.
rbs is online now  
__________________
If you die in debt you made a profit.
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 10:27 (Ref:3710087)   #16
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Many thank's RBS we move forward ...
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 11:21 (Ref:3710093)   #17
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 18,325
S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!
Did Perry McCarthy compete? I don't remember him mentioning it in his autobiography
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 12:50 (Ref:3710107)   #18
backfire
Rookie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 55
backfire should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
One of the problems was it was very expensive to take part. After poor entries to the first round, the grid was filled by giving cheap or free entries to some quite quick drivers - can you imagine Perry paying? This must have severely cheesed off the amateur drivers who paid full whack.
backfire is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 13:08 (Ref:3710112)   #19
rbs
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
England
northampton
Posts: 2,095
rbs should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridrbs should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by S griffin View Post
Did Perry McCarthy compete? I don't remember him mentioning it in his autobiography
I have him down as starting the second race.
rbs is online now  
__________________
If you die in debt you made a profit.
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2017, 14:22 (Ref:3710130)   #20
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
after little work first engine start after many years , soon on the tarmac
https://youtu.be/CgRBjwZEOEQ
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2017, 07:28 (Ref:3710392)   #21
Gerard C
Veteran
 
Gerard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
France
My place
Posts: 9,979
Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!
Hi Bidochon. Obviously we never met before (avant l'Eure c'est pas l'Eure…) but I had a race car prepared at Pacy and use to have my licence made by St André's club. Thousands moons ago… Do you intend to race this car or re-create an historic series in spite of the rather modern engine? Good idea considering that we have the Mazda MX-5 series starting now…
Gerard C is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3710452)   #22
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Comme disait De Funès : but you are French !
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2017, 11:57 (Ref:3710462)   #23
Gerard C
Veteran
 
Gerard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
France
My place
Posts: 9,979
Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!Gerard C has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bidochon View Post
Comme disait De Funès : but you are French !
Yes, indeed … ma biiiiche !
Gerard C is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2017, 13:55 (Ref:3710489)   #24
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
tu faisais préparer ta Sierra je suppose chez Jean Pierre Lepée ?
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2017, 14:17 (Ref:3710493)   #25
bidochon
Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
France
rue Gamma Paris
Posts: 38
bidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbidochon should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Do you intend to race this car or re-create an historic series in spite of the rather modern engine?

at time just for the fun in track days , is it possible to race in historic series with this car ? is it possible to have a HTP ?
bidochon is offline  
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tom Wheatcroft Dies aged 87 Peter Mallett Tributes Forum 13 21 Nov 2009 04:39
Tom Wheatcroft has died. bjohnsonsmith Formula One 26 2 Nov 2009 16:32
Wheatcroft cars davemorganfan Motorsport History 14 24 Nov 2003 14:31
When is a classic car not a classic car? Hobson Classic Cars 8 24 Apr 2001 17:25


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.