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1 Mar 2017, 15:54 (Ref:3715601)
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We already have that in the UK with Sky F1, but at US$470 p.a. with my cable provider, it is too expensive to justify for the limited value; a would be increase of just under 50% of what I currently pay for my bundle of phone, TV and broadband.
And from what I believe, take up has not been as good as Sky had hoped for, as many people, like me, can find far better ways of spending that sort of money than on watching boring races.
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wasnt talking about local offerings but suggesting an opportunity for FOM to run their own channel with original content and meant for a global audience akin to what the other N.American sports do to supplement the coverage offered by our own local TV networks.
a place where FOM can control their own narrative that focuses on the sport as opposed to the 'whats the new controversy/clickbait headline today' narrative fostered by the SKY/FOX/Murdoch type properties.
granted the price point still may be too high/not worth it for many but i suspect (or hope) that more people will respond to a more balanced and objective approach vs the tendency for sensationalism we see now in the coverage.
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1 Mar 2017, 16:18 (Ref:3715608)
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So how long until US rights to F1 move to Chase's buddies at Fox? I am sure they would do a wonderful job, like with their news network.
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1 Mar 2017, 20:04 (Ref:3715653)
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Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya
So how long until US rights to F1 move to Chase's buddies at Fox? I am sure they would do a wonderful job, like with their news network.
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Some people on the over the Atlantic may not realise this but, Liberty Media who now own F1, also own Cable TV company Virgin Media in the UK and Ireland...They are the biggest Platform competitor to Sky in the UK. 21CF are in the process of buying out Sky (that's Sky UK & I, Sky Italy and Sky Germany).
He may have buddies within Fox, in the UK they are the competition.
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4 Mar 2017, 08:09 (Ref:3716389)
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More good sense from Ross Brawn he wants to get rid of DRS and do something about shark fins.
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128360
He also wants to change the process of why new rules are brought in.
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4 Mar 2017, 09:50 (Ref:3716408)
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Ross really hasn't disappointed so far, he's come up with sensible solutions and reflects what a lot of the fans want. I hope he stays for a while
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4 Mar 2017, 11:05 (Ref:3716425)
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What we really need is cars that can follow each other with relative ease. I really dont think we need DRS.
There is great footage of a German GP where Schumacher is stuck behind Berger in about 1993-1994 and he is really close behind him, however he struggles to make a pass.
I think thats one thing you see from footage of 30 years back is that the cars can follow a lot closer than they can at the moment.
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4 Mar 2017, 14:15 (Ref:3716448)
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If Ross Brawn has anything to do with it which of course he will, DRS will be gone fairly soon.. I believe next year it will not be on the race cars...
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4 Mar 2017, 14:54 (Ref:3716455)
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If Ross Brawn has anything to do with it which of course he will, DRS will be gone fairly soon.. I believe next year it will not be on the race cars...
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Jeremy, IMHO the comment about DRS being gone next year is the type of unrealistic optimism that has caused people to be disappointed in the 2017 cars! 
Did you read the article above or watch the Sky interview with Ross? To me three things are clear. First he is simpatico with us in that his goals are our goals. Second he feels many of our current problems have roots in knee jerk decisions. That solutions need to be well researched and planned out to ensure success. Lastly changes need to be made in partnership with the teams. Part of that includes being aware of the cost of regulatory changes upon the teams. Especially in the current environment of various inequalities built into the system.
As to DRS, it is a solution to a problem, but removing DRS doesn't make the root problem go away. "Something" has to replace it. There are a slew of ideas for sure, but it sounds clear that Ross will need to build a well reasoned case for a solution AND the teams will need to be on board with the timing. My point being that any likely solution will require a costly redesign of the cars. Nobody will have the appetite to do that after the 2017 changes. I think Ross is taking the long view on how to fix problems. He explicitly says he will not rush a DRS replacement.
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4 Mar 2017, 17:28 (Ref:3716481)
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true. we should have more of a cautious optimism outlook rather than one of unrealistic optimism but can you really blame us?
there has been so much to be cynical about for so long!
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What shall we use to fill the empty spaces, where waves of hunger roar?
Shall we set out across the sea of faces in search of more and more applause?
Shall we buy a new guitar? Shall we drive a more powerful car?
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5 Mar 2017, 09:26 (Ref:3716626)
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Originally Posted by chillibowl
true. we should have more of a cautious optimism outlook rather than one of unrealistic optimism but can you really blame us?
there has been so much to be cynical about for so long!
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Why would that be?
4 March 2017 – McLaren's Fernando Alonso believes the role of drivers will be "less important" in 2017, despite overhauled technical regulations, which has led to faster Formula 1 cars.
Attempts have been made in recent years to place control back in the hands of drivers, following complaints that technology was becoming too strong an influence in the sport.
Alonso, however, feels that the increased technical impact of the revised regulations, which he experienced during this week's first test, means drivers will still not be able to perform "miracles".
"I think with the technology we have now, with the aero packages we have now, with the power units we have now, I think it's even less important, the driver," Alonso commented
from: http://www.f1reader.com/#/news/alons...in-2017-165463
 
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6 Mar 2017, 12:13 (Ref:3716848)
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A very interesting 'interview'. Ross Brawn always seems to talk a lot of sense in my opinion and certainly appears to think things through. I'm also happy that he doesn't possess the knee-jerk reaction philosophy that previous management had which generally led to further knee-jerks to try and put things right that their previous attempts had made even more wrong!
Let's see how this pans out with time, but I'm optimistic at the moment...
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6 Mar 2017, 13:17 (Ref:3716860)
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Similar content as in the Sky/Kravitz interview, but a bit more scripted. More confirmation of taking the long view and validation of solutions prior to implementation.
Two things that I don't think has been discussed here yet...
1. The technical team Ross plans to put together to do the analysis.
2. The idea of testing out ideas in non-championship races.
I don't have much thought regarding the first, other than it is the right thing to do if done correctly. Regarding the second, I sort of like the idea, but it will be interesting to see how much they could experiment during the course of a racing season. Would they have just one non-championship race? How much experimentation could take place in one event? And would one event be enough to really prove or disprove a particular idea?
Oh... Kudos to FOM for releasing this.
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7 Mar 2017, 09:12 (Ref:3717009)
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Originally Posted by Sodemo
What we really need is cars that can follow each other with relative ease. I really dont think we need DRS.
There is great footage of a German GP where Schumacher is stuck behind Berger in about 1993-1994 and he is really close behind him, however he struggles to make a pass.
I think thats one thing you see from footage of 30 years back is that the cars can follow a lot closer than they can at the moment.
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In an interview in Barcelona Lewis says that the 2017 cars are more difficult to follow another car in than the 2016 cars.
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7 Mar 2017, 09:34 (Ref:3717011)
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In an interview in Barcelona Lewis says that the 2017 cars are more difficult to follow another car in than the 2016 cars.
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I never understood why the front wing is so wide. Surely the more aero you give it, the more it'll hurt when following another car?
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