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Weren't they getting the run around by CAMS?
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Exhibition race was meant to be at the Bathurst 6hr, can't recall if it was this year, or next.
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definitely not on this years 6 hour schedule
However this article says it was the 12 hour Plans underway for Australian TCR series I dont hink much is happening in this space in Australia |
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Doesnt really show CAMS being on board.
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Going to CAMS with a tentative look see is almost a useless exercise. Its like going there tomorrow and bringing in a heap of Mygale chassis in from Europe, and equipping them with Ford EcoBoost engines, to run a 1 make category... without a plan for drivers, entrants or sponsors or anything else you might need to get grids near capacity... oh wait...!! More seriously... how many categories do we need in this country??? |
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Nope I just don't think cams wants 2 touring car categories in their portfolio currently which is a shame but understandable as running it on the nationals circuit seems bizarre
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I also believe Formula Ford were paying a license fee too, and if you want to take issue with CAMS take it for that ridiculous & anti-competitive behaviour. We're hearing quotes from one side, but nothing from the official side. Also the guy supposedly bringing them here had the invitation to run cars in the 12hour as invitational, and where are they? For me just a lot of waffle. If they ever turn up here they will be like MARC cars, fun, low cost, running around in the 12 hour, on the Shannons bill, but I can't see them being anything bigger. |
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On the plus side - Formula Ford has still been provided a place to race for its class. Do you think there is a difference in the size of the license fee between Formula Ford and V8SC that is impacting on CAMS decision making? |
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Ever heard of leading the witness? Your claims are baseless.
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AusGT (in all forms), can't be too far away from cutting ties with the Nationals, and going it alone.
There'd be plenty of room on either support progamme to run TCR. The problem is, how do you pitch it to the masses? Cut-price, market-relevent tin-top racing (so many hyphens!)? A step up from the Proddies? A slightly bigger step up from the Excels/Pulsars? |
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His quotes are wishy-washy and he can barely string a sentence together, and nobody knows who he is - I personally don't take much stock in the evidence he has taken to AA (who will print anything). Meanwhile CAMS are saying they can't comment because of commercial confidentiality. I'm not sure why it would be surprising that somebody else has been in discussions with CAMS about TCR in Australia, and whose only move might have been more formal than getting sensationalist junk printed in AA, which several "outlets" have repeated without checking any facts. |
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From all your energy and defensiveness I can't quite work out who the target is? What other information do you have to so clearly identify it as "sensationalist junk" |
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
This gentleman is claiming CAMS have "blocked" TCR in Australia but offers no proof. You are claiming/alluding that Supercars are somehow behind it but offer no proof. Sensationalist junk is when juicy, clickbait headlines are made out of little or no supporting facts. |
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Surely a "serious commercial operation" would be pretty stupid to spend money on that for another organisation to reap any potential benefits? The proof of Supercars involvement is in the AA article, is it not? |
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What further can he provide outside of his own experiences with CAMS nor V8SC offering any information or comments? |
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