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Old 18 Apr 2017, 16:58 (Ref:3727601)   #5326
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Rumor is that Porsche are still doing something that improves their refueling times by a couple of seconds per stop. Which means a gain of about 4-8 seconds per double stint.

Also, it should be noted that as far as development of the sprint and LM kits, though teams can't develop a whole new package without permission (unlikely to be forthcoming) from the ACO, teams can still change parts of them, but that's largely limited to interchangeable parts (dive planes, diffuser flaps if running a wing diffuser, which only Audi ever did, other minor stuff).

Porsche's biggest advantage is that they now know where to aim. This compromising stuff and weather is why all the low downforce rounds IMO should be first, and why adding Monza or Paul Ricard would be a good idea, even if it cost a round, most likely COTA (though I'd probably yank Bahrain due to controversies there, though COTA has been run like a total crap show). Also, the weather tends to be better when Silverstone is a July-August round.
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 19:13 (Ref:3727835)   #5327
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Some Argentine media say that Pechito will be testing the TS050 in Paul Richards this week.
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 20:57 (Ref:3727855)   #5328
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Some Argentine media say that Pechito will be testing the TS050 in Paul Richards this week.
I wonder if it'll be with just one or both bodykits?
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 22:17 (Ref:3727871)   #5329
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I wonder if it'll be with just one or both bodykits?
My sensation is low drag bodykit, perhaps 2 different configurations of LD.
The package must be homologated in 15 days.
I guess the 9 drivers will be part of the test too.
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 23:59 (Ref:3727890)   #5330
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My sensation is low drag bodykit, perhaps 2 different configurations of LD.
The package must be homologated in 15 days.
I guess the 9 drivers will be part of the test too.
They will be doing standard endurance test most likely.
I agree with the LD kit.
Since they wouldn't have gotten car ready after the silverstone, chances are, they are only testing one car.
Driver wise, I think all japanese drivers are back home (as far as I know) so there will be max of 6 drivers there.(or less)
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Old 20 Apr 2017, 10:51 (Ref:3727949)   #5331
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jp.motorsport.com reports Hisatake Murata interview.
https://jp.motorsport.com/wec/news/w...%9B%B8-895995/

*Temperature control of tire was the cause by which the pace of #8 didn't become stable. Race engineer ordered to Kazuki that he should shake the car and warm up tire.
*Rear balance trouble seems the cause for Lopez's crash.
*When Lopez crashed, they found out that hybrid system was alive.
*Crash impact even came to steering of #8, so it took time to exchange the steering unit.
*Porsche adopted the clever strategy they saved the fuel mileage and push 2, 3 laps at clean place.
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Old 20 Apr 2017, 11:24 (Ref:3727953)   #5332
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*Porsche adopted the clever strategy they saved the fuel mileage and pushed at clean place in 2,3 laps.
Wrong translation correction.
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Old 20 Apr 2017, 23:56 (Ref:3728062)   #5333
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*Temperature control of tire was the cause by which the pace of #8 didn't become stable. Race engineer ordered to Kazuki that he should shake the car and warm up tire.
*Rear balance trouble seems the cause for Lopez's crash.
*When Lopez crashed, they found out that hybrid system was alive.
*Crash impact even came to steering of #8, so it took time to exchange the steering unit.
*Porsche adopted the clever strategy they saved the fuel mileage and push 2, 3 laps at clean place.
So they took a spare steering unit from the #8 car to fix the #7? The rear balance issue must be from the roll bar that broke on the #7.

Btw,it seems from Lopez's twitter that he has been ordered to rest for a couple weeks. So he's probably not going to be testing the car this week.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 04:38 (Ref:3728092)   #5334
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So they took a spare steering unit from the #8 car to fix the #7? The rear balance issue must be from the roll bar that broke on the #7.

Btw,it seems from Lopez's twitter that he has been ordered to rest for a couple weeks. So he's probably not going to be testing the car this week.
yes, It's true I saw the twitter just.
Then, Will the 5 European drivers be testing the car?

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Old 1 May 2017, 14:56 (Ref:3730378)   #5335
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Toyota To Run Both Aero Packages At Spa.
The #7 and #8 TS050s will race with the high-downforce package. The #9 will race with the low-downforce aero.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...es-at-spa.html
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Old 1 May 2017, 15:24 (Ref:3730381)   #5336
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Old 1 May 2017, 19:04 (Ref:3730423)   #5337
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I wonder if the LM kit will be any different from the one ran at the prologue in Monza? Looking forward to Spa more than Silverstone. We may see a like for like battle between Toyota and Porsche!
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Old 3 May 2017, 11:51 (Ref:3730741)   #5338
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#9 at the scrutineering, if someone notices any difference:

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Old 3 May 2017, 17:35 (Ref:3730791)   #5339
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I noticed that flow conditioner or mini-wing on the tall stalk for the rear wing. It's attached to the rear fender and the stalk right above the Gazoo Racing lettering on the cheese wedge. This picture is from the prologue and it's not there

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Old 4 May 2017, 09:24 (Ref:3730939)   #5340
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No Lopez this weekend
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Old 4 May 2017, 10:38 (Ref:3730948)   #5341
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Not good for his experience with the car and race conditions.

BTW, where is SPA race thread?
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Old 4 May 2017, 10:46 (Ref:3730954)   #5342
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Fiawec live timing is down again...

Lopez out is quite bad news for him and the team #7
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Old 4 May 2017, 11:53 (Ref:3730969)   #5343
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Looks like #9 is running considerable less DF (and drag) than Porsche. Their top speed is consistently higher and on their best lap was 305 kph, where Porsche (and #7 and #8 Toyota) was at 263-264 kph on their fastest lap.

Looks like #9 is in pure LM spec and won't make any competitive moves this weekend.
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Old 4 May 2017, 13:06 (Ref:3730990)   #5344
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Yeah, we need a race thread, since FP1 just happened.
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Looks like #9 is running considerable less DF (and drag) than Porsche. Their top speed is consistently higher and on their best lap was 305 kph, where Porsche (and #7 and #8 Toyota) was at 263-264 kph on their fastest lap.

Looks like #9 is in pure LM spec and won't make any competitive moves this weekend.
but then again, speed traps don't say as much as they used to (especially for a single practice session), since the hybrids usually lift quite a bit before the trap (remember audi once hitting 326 km/h last year on the kemmel and it's highest trap speed being 314 km/h). the top speeds at the end of the race might be a bit closer to the truth, since there are much more laps to choose from (but in that case, there also are more instances of slipstream drafting, so probably the highest top speeds are many times higher than what the cars normally do - i remember porsche doing around 292 km/h in 2015 and the max trap speed was 320 km/h - although in le mans it seems to be the other way around, the onboard telemetry showed higher speeds than the traps, even after the whole 24 hours). i'm quite sure the porsches hit much more than ~265 km/h at the end of the kemmel.

i suspect porsche are running a high-downforce version of their LD package, pretty much the same as they did at silverstone, in order to be competitive with the HD toyotas. and they sure are, their ideal lap (with the LD setup) is actually faster than toyota's ideal lap with HD setup.

anyway, so far, porsche's LD car seems clearly faster (~1.5 seconds) than toyota's LD car. but it's too early to draw conclusions, especially since toyota's LD was so fast at the prologue.
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I wasn't comparing top speed of one top speed lap, the top speed diference is evident even if you look at "chronological analysis" for every single lap on http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/
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Conway down to 1.56.3 in FP2.Porsche not far behind again with the nr 2 only 5 tenths off the nr 7's pace.
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Here's a nice detailed look at the rear of the high downforce car on endurance info

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Hisatake Murata interview by jp.motorsport.com.
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*#7 and #8 are HDF spec. It's because HDF spec has an advantage in Spa.
*Kamui marked top time on Day 1. Kamui didn't do qualifying simulation at all. when he marked the best time, fuel was full. but tire was new tire. so it helped him.
*Kamui said funny things. WEC running is like doing a Tetris game while full speed running.
Various functions are provided and it is necessary to run while changing the function depending on the conditions of the course, the change of the weather, the change of the mileage. Operating with buttons and switches on steering wheel while talking with engineers by air.

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