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Old 6 Aug 2017, 11:58 (Ref:3757702)   #31
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I remember 1300 Special Saloon Mini racer Phil Winter graduating to a 1300 BDA engined Low Line Escort Mk1 for the opening meeting of the 1977 season at Thruxton . Phil lived in Wimborne which is only a short distance from Cyril Malem's base in Ferndown.Unfortunately Phil's debut in the car didn't go too well , but I am fairly sure that this was the ex Geoff Woods car. Sadly Phil died in a road accident on the Isle of Man while attending the TT Races a few months later .
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Old 6 Aug 2017, 20:09 (Ref:3757804)   #32
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photo kindly sent to me by Geoff Werran ,who was a fan of Jim Crawford and got the chance to take this as Jim tried out the Wood Escort at the British GP weekend in July 1975. That's Geoff Wood crouched by the open door . On this occasion Geoff wasnt feeling well enough to race so friend Geoff Friswell took the start only to spin on a wet piece of track on the warm up lap and ripped off the bodywork on one side as reported in Autosport which was a real shame to say the least. Apologies to Geoff Werran for misspelling his name in the photo credit.
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Old 6 Aug 2017, 21:03 (Ref:3757851)   #33
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Dont believe this car ever ran a 1300 bda.Great picture from silverstone, both Jim and Geoff F were great guys ,both very talented drivers, we used to see Jim with his atlantic when we went to do dyno testing at Vita's rolling road,good times.GW
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Old 6 Aug 2017, 21:27 (Ref:3757873)   #34
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2 more scans of the car . Advert from end of 1974 ,the car didnt sell at that point and Geoff continued with her in 1975. The CCC article from Oct 1974 that featured the class of the supersaloons of the day.
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Old 6 Aug 2017, 22:30 (Ref:3757882)   #35
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I remember 1300 Special Saloon Mini racer Phil Winter graduating to a 1300 BDA engined Low Line Escort Mk1 for the opening meeting of the 1977 season at Thruxton . Phil lived in Wimborne which is only a short distance from Cyril Malem's base in Ferndown.Unfortunately Phil's debut in the car didn't go too well , but I am fairly sure that this was the ex Geoff Woods car. Sadly Phil died in a road accident on the Isle of Man while attending the TT Races a few months later .
Can back this up with quote from Autosport's Phil Winter tribute June 1977 "For this season Phil was racing the ex-Geoff Wood former spaceframe lowline Escort which proved to be troublesome with a 1.3 BDA ,so a new 2.0 power unit was substituted"
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Old 6 Aug 2017, 23:31 (Ref:3757886)   #36
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how bizzare taking out the 1850 and putting in a weedy 1300, must have been terribly disappointing and peaky should have stuck with a 1300 mini
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Old 7 Aug 2017, 06:46 (Ref:3757925)   #37
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Great news and as the CSCC's tame special saloon historian i`ll pass on any photos and race history i can find . This is a very worthy restoration project and we`d be very interested to one day see it race in our series.
Nice images that show the rear wing. I noticed Pete of Spec-R was missing this original rear spoiler when the car went to his workshops in Devizes, so he will be pleased to copy the original design from 1974.
It looks as though the rear panel was cut out by Andrew Grover in the late 1970's exposing the rear axle and suspension, so it would be better to put an original Escort moulded panel back in, this will hold the rear lights and fog/rain LCD light unit for circuit racing regs.
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Old 7 Aug 2017, 11:09 (Ref:3757962)   #38
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Can back this up with quote from Autosport's Phil Winter tribute June 1977 "For this season Phil was racing the ex-Geoff Wood former spaceframe lowline Escort which proved to be troublesome with a 1.3 BDA ,so a new 2.0 power unit was substituted"
The new 2.0 Hart power unit may have actually been the original Hart 1850 that Geoff Woods still retained in his workshop after he sold the Escort and I do remember Andrew Grover saying he had the original 1850 Hart unit upgraded to 1975cc around the late 1977/78 season.

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Old 8 Aug 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3758158)   #39
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This is the Geoff Woods Escort, showing quite a low line for the day.
I remember Geoff Wood very well and raced against him many times when he raced his Mini at Croft and Rufforth.
The picture shows his car in the paddock at the 1975 British GP at Silverstone and is next to my car, the white Escort. Geoff's car was indeed powered by a Hart 1850cc BDA and we were running a 1787cc BDA. Happy days and it brings back great memories as my daughter was born less than two weeks after that weekend and my eight an a half months pregnant wife was there at the meeting. We lived in a VW camper for three days.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3758213)   #40
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I remember 1300 Special Saloon Mini racer Phil Winter graduating to a 1300 BDA engined Low Line Escort Mk1 for the opening meeting of the 1977 season at Thruxton . Phil lived in Wimborne which is only a short distance from Cyril Malem's base in Ferndown.Unfortunately Phil's debut in the car didn't go too well , but I am fairly sure that this was the ex Geoff Woods car. Sadly Phil died in a road accident on the Isle of Man while attending the TT Races a few months later .
Has anyone got any images of Phil Winter racing this Ex Geoff Woods Escort at this Thruxton meeting or preparing it for the 1977 season.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 18:45 (Ref:3758251)   #41
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Mk1 Hart Escort Special Saloon

Does anyone recognize who may have fabricated this exhaust manifold and system.Does it look familiar to anyone ??
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 20:59 (Ref:3758269)   #42
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Has anyone got any images of Phil Winter racing this Ex Geoff Woods Escort at this Thruxton meeting or preparing it for the 1977 season.
Sorry no photos but have a result sheet from the Esso Uniflo special saloon race at Thruxton on 08.05.77. Phil qualified 5th in 1-35.0 but was a non-starter for the race.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 07:54 (Ref:3758339)   #43
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Does anyone recognize who may have fabricated this exhaust manifold and system.Does it look familiar to anyone ??
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It was certainly made for the car, with long sweeps entering and exiting the chassis. The steel manifold flange to the head was done individually to each down pipe instead of a single flange, this procedure is harder to do by the fabricator but makes life easier to replace or repair individual downpipes and the collector looks pretty standard to some of our GT and single seater race cars. This manifold was made to give more torque.

We used Mike the Pipe, Jeff Howe at West Kingsdown and the last few years Matt at Simpson of Langley (Stainless Steel experts), mainly London and Home Counties boys.
On the end of the silencer Pete, is there an entry plate to service the insides of the unit and how is it attached as Mike the Pipe use to weld small brackets inside to the silencer wall for the fixing of the plate and Howe use to fold over inwards the end of the silencer and drill holes for the end plate to fix too. Matt, well his Dad at Simpson uses Alan Bolts to fix to an internal plate and now we only use stainless steel and the pipes are all detachable slippers.

By the way I have noticed the engine block is painted blue, Hart painted all their blocks blue.

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Old 9 Aug 2017, 08:52 (Ref:3758354)   #44
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Sorry no photos but have a result sheet from the Esso Uniflo special saloon race at Thruxton on 08.05.77. Phil qualified 5th in 1-35.0 but was a non-starter for the race.
Within two months of this race I believe Phil Winter was killed on the Isle of Man.

During practice did he have a problem with his 1300 BDA engine, which use to be quite reliable in his Special Saloon Mini. He only used this unit to enter the up-to 1300 class, I imagine he was thinking the Escort would be just as quick as the 1840 Hart engine the car came with, no chance.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 09:20 (Ref:3758359)   #45
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The BARC practice results sheets of the time showed cars in race number order with best lap time only and no other info at all such as car make, class, number of laps etc. which we get today. The sheet I have gives car nos 1 - 5 as class A (gleaned from the race result sheet which gives more info). Then car nos 6 - 12 (6 was Tony Sugden on pole, 7 Steve Phillips' Escort, 9 Geoff Janes' Vauxhall, 10 our Escort, 11 Keith Beddoe's Escort, then 12 Phil Winter). The numbers then jump to car nos 16 - 24 with 16 being Martin Pearson's Datsun Cherry, 17 Dave Carvell's Mini etc all being 1300cc Class C cars. Numbers then jump to 29 - 49 which are all Imps and Minis in classes D and E such as Richard Long, Adrian Gamble and David Enderby. The point of this is that it appears Phil was lumped in with the 1300cc - 2500cc class B lot. Are you sure he was running a 1300 cc engine?
I knew Phil fairly well from when he raced his Mini but I don't recall talking to him on that day at Thruxton or even realising he was in an Escort rather than his usual Mini. I think he died very soon after this as he was at the TT racing which has practice usually in last week of May and races in first week of June and I have a feeling he died on 'Mad Sunday', but not 100% sure.
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