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So.. with all the pass the parcel stuff now confirmed Here, how much magic did Mr Brown and friends get to use to create this?
Possibly one of the most complex changes the sport has seen, involving 3 teams, 2 manufacturers and potentially 2 pilots as well, most with binding contracts, but with love missing, the merry go round could and seems to have been made to come true. Amazing! McLaren Renault & Scuderia Toro Rosso Honda come on down! Perhaps we can now see some corporate branding pop up on the McLaren? |
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Also, what the hell is my own theory, I am going off solid evidence, Horner has said Renault need to pick up their game for a championship bid. Max has had twice the DNF's of Dan, which says, it isn't the engine possibly, Dan has scored 7 times the amount of podiums Max has. Max and Dan cop a penalty in Monza, Dan comes up to finish fourth, Max pushes his limits, crashes into Massa. If you cant see that there is pushing by car 33 going on then you are blind, its easy to see, why has Hulkenberg had limited DNF's. Look into it further before implying we don't know because we are too far away from F1's central, Europe |
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...b38f9e30db2f0f https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...to-sort-it-out http://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id...-worth-renault I suggest reading these, then see if my 'theory' of Red Bull saying Renault isn't good enough is just delusional |
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13 Sep 2017, 11:57 (Ref:3766516) | #506 | |
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I see Bottas was resigned, wise choice, no other options really either and Valterri is title material
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Nobody in F1 has blamed MV.
All three Renault teams have suffered unacceptable reliability. RBR have a great line-up of two superb racing drivers. Sitting in an armchair however far away, deciding it is one drivers fault is a fools errand... |
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I think this is what is seen as your own theory...?
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i doubt we will get a full accounting of all the ins and outs but there are some good f1 journos out there that i think can make a good go of re telling the tale, proper interviews, time lines etc ...if anyone comes across any such features/articles please share the source, link, or publication issue. Quote:
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I"m not sure we need to start new threads just yet
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this statement is cracking me up, it reads as both congratulatory and slightly sinister
palmer and williams makes a lot of sense. it'd be a total waste of a drive in a way but it's the sort of thing that'd benefit both parties. |
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Also, don't dare say anything against my country or anyone from it again, you do and its a report. I never bashed on you and where your from, so don't dare say we Australians are dumb because we are in the best part of the world. You sit here and imply Australians in general have no clue, but numerous Australians on this forum, GTR in F1's forum stands out, as someone who actually is educated on what he is saying, comments from yourself have been unwarranted. I don't get stirred about much, but knock my country and I have a serious issue, and now you have made yourself an enemy, I wont be Malicious or anything like that, but I wont be backing you in any more arguments, I DO NOT appreciate your comments against Australia, your views on Sainz, I let go as those who don't have a grudge know the truth, but this attack against a country is uncalled for, end of story. Last edited by mceci1; 14 Sep 2017 at 05:35. |
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So explain, why does Max have twice the DNF's of Dan, most have been engine, same for Alonso, its a talented he, pushing an anchor of an engine too hard, simple and as plain as that, no scientific evidence needed to see what's going on, and don't put the aluminium foil hat on and say Red Bull are sabotaging Max, they aren't as it would hurt them more then anything else |
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Calm down and don't get your jocks in a twist mate!
I said "armchair however far away" - i.e. 10 miles or 10,000 miles. I also said RBR have two "superb" drivers. One's from Oz, yeh? On your strange theory, I HAVE seen the evidence. In the paddock. |
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As for the miles away, I apologise for getting fired up, but when you said the comment about being miles away in Australia a few weeks back and now that, it gives a bad impression, can you see my view on that. Anyway, I am not one who likes holding a grudge, so lets move on, forget the past and look forward in F1 land |
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No worries, anyway, I'm still trembling at the idea of being "reported!"
The reason Max has had more DNFs than Dan this year is the same as why Dan had more in the past. Bad fortune. Mind you, the number Dan has had this year is not acceptable anyway. |
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So Mercedes waited for Alonso to confirm his 2018 plans before re-signing Bottas?? Interesting.
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I was going to write that all Renault drivers have had bad luck, but it seems one may have been playing with a loaded deck.
I'm no great fan of his but he deserved a fair chance at least. Some think I don't like Sainz. Not true, I just think he would do better to knuckle down and work on the inconsistencies in his driving rather than play whinging politics with his old man in the paddock. It will be interesting to see him in the Enstone team and how much support he gets when it doesn't go as planned. Their leader has two great skills. Politics of spin and self-preservation. |
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Both should have 0, but that's how F1 is, its not like V8s, its a game of catching, that's hard given the advantage of the two big names
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http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/09/13/...bull-improves/
Note he says Red Bull must improve, not Renault, while I don't like how slow Renault is, as PeeBee said, they shouldn't have to worry about engine, we need to wonder what else underlies, with Toro Rosso Honda now confirmed, (yesterday in Australia that I saw, article's were written 13th) can he see a Honda fail, again and wants out. |
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