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I think that good looking LMPs went out the window after the Bentley Speed 8, Courage C70 and Pescarolo C60/01. Unfortunately you can't fight what wind tunnels, math and science are saying.
Now we have to hope that fast cars look reasonably good. Toyota TS050 looks fairly good, the sprint Porsche 919 does, as does the Cadillac DPI, even if it's not a helluva lot different from the Dallara it's based on (though there's debate on if the Caddy or base Dallara came first). I personally think that the Mazda looks weird, but putting production car design cues (that look good on the road cars) on to an out and out prototype racer was probably going to turn out that way. |
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Well, I thought and still think that the Audi and Bentley twin turbo V8s in the R8 and Speed 8 sounded/sound good. At least they made noise unlike the Audi diesels, which also sounded good--when you could hear them.
Ironic thing is that now several of the Audi S and RS cars and the entry level Bentley Continental GT have twin turbo DFI V8s that share technology with the old LMP engines, though they're far from one and the same. I sort of wish that Audi could make a version of the R8 and Lamborghini a version of the Hurican with the twin turbo V8, but that would probably steal the thunder of the V10. |
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Out of curiosity, I wonder if it's by design or coincidence, but it seems that the current DPI cars at most tracks are as fast as 2000-2005 LMP900/LMP1 cars.
Only reason I'm thinking that is that I'm looking at lap times at various tracks and the fact that the original DPs were intended to be roughly as fast as a 1985 Porsche 962. |
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To think that HPD was going to go to the extremes that Mazda did instead of taking the ESM Nissan and Cadillac approach was probably asking too much.
There's a reason why the cars are designed the way they are and why outside of Mazda so few took the easy way out while retaining most of the base cars' aero package. |
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That's how I feel about it, lol. Doesn't sound good, doesn't look like an Acura, doesn't look good. But hey its variety so I'll take it.
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No not you! Hot take of the week - Hondas are ugly! Nothing can compare to the Gibson re: noise right now.
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Looks as if it will get MAJOR changes to the chassis as 3 of the 4 constructors will be getting 'Jokers' with the Mk. 30 getting the largest. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...2-updates.html L.P. |
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Well, that's massive. So much for the spirit of this P2 generation, not that I liked that spirit in the first place.
To be fair, I examined a system of variable updates based on performance a few years back too. So, I guess here's my on-track test of that concept. |
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If IMSA and the ACO achieve a common set of global prototype regulations for 2020, the next generation of IMSA’s DPi could be hybrid.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/a...rototype-regs/ |
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The highlighted sentence in what Atherton said is the key factor in it all. That is the reason there is no P-1 on the IMSA grid at the moment. IMSA, did not, nor do they want a class that is untenable to their paddock. They are not adverse to the technology, mostly to the cost as seen in the ACO's presentation of it. L.P. |
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Interesting that Hybrid is now being tossed around when the world's manufacturers seem to be headed to all-electric...
https://www.wired.com/story/general-...-cars-plan-gm/ |
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This is sports car racing. Many sports car manufacturers are going hybrid, see the Porsche 918, McLaren P1, LaFerrari, Aston Martin Valkyrie, Mercedes-AMG Project One...
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LMP2 double face - Detailed line drawings of all four LMP2 chassis side-by-side with their DPi counterparts
For anyone interested in looking at more technical documents that compare stock P2s to their DPi counterparts. |
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