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25 Sep 2017, 05:50 (Ref:3769684) | #1 | |
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Sandown Seatbelts Illegal?
Some chat of tampered seatbelts doing the rounds at the minute.
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Oh wow, that could have serious ramifications.
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Any eagle eyes see what car it was during the telecast?
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26 Sep 2017, 09:21 (Ref:3769888) | #6 | |
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Dunno. It's weird.
Mr Noonan was posed the question this evening, I've noticed. He appeared to be unaware of it. |
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I think I can recall either RBR or Walkinshaw having this seatbelt setup.
It had the left shoulder and left lap belts already connected to the centre release latch. Actually, it was shown when SvG got into his car for the final stint. I don't have the facilities to check, can someone confirm or tell me I'm dreaming? |
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I had been told today by someone who re-watched sandown that it was a triple 8 car.
This seems to confirm that. Did triple 8 get caught out by forgetting that the rules changed last year |
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Article above confirms it is #97
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Is loosely tethering two belts at their buckles with a breakable zip-tie, considered a modification to the belts and their function?
Perhaps, but I don't feel it warrants anything more than a strong recommendation not to do it. |
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I think they're saying it's illegal by FIA standards, not CAMS, so who knows how that gets interpreted
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28 Sep 2017, 23:30 (Ref:3770410) | #14 | |
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They have been told to remove the approval tag so it must be something more permanent than a simple zip-tie or two.
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So if the zip tie holds the buckle in so that when released it does not come out of the catch,
surely the mechanism inside still releases it unless it has been modified internally. So if you put the belts back on and don't push in that one buckle because it is already in there, do you bet your life or someone else's that it is still in the catch correctly and wont come out in a crash.???? |
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My understanding was that the left shoulder strap, and left lap strap are tethered to be within close proximity of eachother when released.
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Good, clarify and remind people of the rules and lets move on
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Surely you are kidding, a serious breach of FIA safety regulations has occurred.
"Remind people of the regulations" So from now on whenever a team is found breaching regulations (cheating), we just "remind people of the rules and move on". So in future, if someone else is caught cheating, a statement is issued reminding everyone of the rules and we all move on. In other words, the team caught cheating can simply claim "we forgot about that rule", please remind us again and then we all move on ????? BS big time. |
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4 Oct 2017, 09:51 (Ref:3771712) | #21 | |
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Seems as though the catagory had a tough time enforcing rules that perhaps they were not even clear on.
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don't know if things work differently in Oz but here in UK checking and affirming compliance with Safety Regulations is nothing to do with the circuit or race promoters or championship / series / 'category' organisers - it's entirely the responsibility of the ASN-appointed scrutineers.
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At the time, none of the belts were attached at more than one point at the time of the inspection. From what I gather (from a pit crew member) is the belts were having the release box modified / changed on the Saturday night, for use in the warm-up / race. |
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