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Old 30 Oct 2017, 11:41 (Ref:3777463)   #776
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Got to run them somewhere though, are they going to beg supercars for help?
CAMS owns and runs the Shannons Nationals, why wouldn't they race there? (especially if CAMS endsed up running GTs itself)
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 11:46 (Ref:3777464)   #777
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sure, they can run brand new half million dollar cars at the 7 events CAMS run in front of no crowd. that will work
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 11:54 (Ref:3777466)   #778
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You realise the championship has run on the nationals schedule before peckstar?
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 12:21 (Ref:3777474)   #779
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sure, they can run brand new half million dollar cars at the 7 events CAMS run in front of no crowd. that will work


It's been run and done many many many times in front of no crowd before the GTs ran in support of Supercars outside of the GP and Clipsal. It must've worked as the championship still exists and even with the disappointing entry numbers this year there still a number of brand new half a million dollar race cars heading down under.
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 21:11 (Ref:3777611)   #780
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Question (that you may or may not be able to answer):

Next year's Hampton Downs event is going to be a 12 hour race and will be a leg of the Asia Pacific GT series. Does that mean it won't have any ties to the Aus series and will be a completely different field, or are we likely to get a mixed bag?

You must forgive my ignorance of the workings of the Aus GT series as we get basically zero coverage of it over here in NZ. It's still my favourite category though.
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 22:08 (Ref:3777627)   #781
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Question (that you may or may not be able to answer):

Next year's Hampton Downs event is going to be a 12 hour race and will be a leg of the Asia Pacific GT series. Does that mean it won't have any ties to the Aus series and will be a completely different field, or are we likely to get a mixed bag?

You must forgive my ignorance of the workings of the Aus GT series as we get basically zero coverage of it over here in NZ. It's still my favourite category though.
Wont have any ties to the Aust Series, although Aust series cars may enter

Highlands to host Aus GT round for final time
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 02:04 (Ref:3777663)   #782
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If I were the next promoter of the category in Australia, I'd definitely skip having sprint and endurance series. Mix it up and have a bit of both or more of the two driver races than not, but I'm not sure the series is strong enough to support two separate series.
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 03:35 (Ref:3777667)   #783
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If the much talked about Sepang 12 hour/Bathurst 12 hour/Hampton Downs 12 hour series gets off the ground, what might be left of AusGT?
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 03:47 (Ref:3777669)   #784
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If the much talked about Sepang 12 hour/Bathurst 12 hour/Hampton Downs 12 hour series gets off the ground, what might be left of AusGT?
evolution of this year's Sprint series? (hopefully without the politics/crash damage/TV coverage issues etc and therefore a decent grid)
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 03:55 (Ref:3777671)   #785
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evolution of this year's Sprint series? (hopefully without the politics/crash damage/TV coverage issues etc and therefore a decent grid)
would be nice,
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 05:51 (Ref:3777691)   #786
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sure, they can run brand new half million dollar cars at the 7 events CAMS run in front of no crowd. that will work
They raced in front of no crowd at the Creek in August at 7am in the morning at a Supercars event. What is the difference? (other than the crews won't have to get up as early at a Shannons event)

Or were you not up in time to watch it?


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If the much talked about Sepang 12 hour/Bathurst 12 hour/Hampton Downs 12 hour series gets off the ground, what might be left of AusGT?
Do you seriously post this stuff with a straight face? Or just trying to wind up other posters?

That series has absolutely nothing to do with AGT or any other national championship, it is an SRO initiative.

There will be an Australian GT Champion crowned in 2018. Someone will run it, it will race on an event card, and will attract more cars than a Formula 4 grid, which is a national championship too after all.
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 05:52 (Ref:3777692)   #787
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More cars in there than many of the recent rounds, they could almost have their own one make series
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 05:56 (Ref:3777694)   #788
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 05:59 (Ref:3777697)   #789
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If the much talked about Sepang 12 hour/Bathurst 12 hour/Hampton Downs 12 hour series gets off the ground, what might be left of AusGT?
Not sure what your point is here GTR?

As an avid support of Australian GT and a moderator who supports positive & informative discussion - I am sure you would be aware that the Australian GT Championship has existed and run annually whilst the Sepang & Bathurst 12 Hours have also been in existence.

So with that context - what is your question again?
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Not sure what your point is here GTR?

As an avid support of Australian GT and a moderator who supports positive & informative discussion - I am sure you would be aware that the Australian GT Championship has existed and run annually whilst the Sepang & Bathurst 12 Hours have also been in existence.

So with that context - what is your question again?
would it not make sense that with the new championship some drivers/teams/cars might choose to take part in the bigger championship, rather than in Aust GT
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would it not make sense that with the new championship some drivers/teams/cars might choose to take part in the bigger championship, rather than in Aust GT
Sepang & Bathurst have been in the same Championship for two years already, did that rob AGT of any competitors?
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Sepang & Bathurst have been in the same Championship for two years already, did that rob AGT of any competitors?
have you been watching this year? If you have you know the answer
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As you have been watching - which competitors chose to race at Sepang & Bathurst at the expense of the Australian GT Championship Peckstar?
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have you been watching this year? If you have you know the answer
I have to ask seriously if you have been watching!

What competitors have left AGT to compete in the Intercontinental GT Challenge that Sepang & Bathurst have been a part of in 2016 and 2017???
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As you have been watching - which competitors chose to race at Sepang & Bathurst at the expense of the Australian GT Championship Peckstar?
I was talking about the Aust gp fields, which we all agree are down significantly. however quite a few ran at just 3 tracks earlier in the year. (Bathurst , clipsal , Aust F1 GP) and havent eben seen since

But now we may have a 3 race championship on our doorstep. which is different from the current year.
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I was talking about the Aust gp fields, which we all agree are down significantly. however quite a few ran at just 3 tracks earlier in the year. (Bathurst , clipsal , Aust F1 GP) and havent eben seen since

But now we may have a 3 race championship on our doorstep. which is different from the current year.
Talk about moving the goalposts and drawing a long bow...
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Talk about moving the goalposts and drawing a long bow...
didnt move any goal posts, You just looked at them from a different angle, I was always referring tot he size of the Aust gt grids

But if it helps, 25 Aust GT teams took to the grid in at least 1 round of the SRO championship, just 10 Aust Gt teams, started in the recent Endurance round, (one of which didnt race at in the SRO round)
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didnt move any goal posts, You just looked at them from a different angle, I was always referring tot he size of the Aust gt grids

But if it helps, 25 Aust GT teams took to the grid in at least 1 round of the SRO championship, just 10 Aust Gt teams, started in the recent Endurance round, (one of which didnt race at in the SRO round)
Yes peckstar however you implied that Aus GT grids were reducing in line with the addition of new international series.

Your use of the SRO intercontinental championship is an interesting one to support your post. Could you enlighten us with the number of Aus GT teams who have since competed at Rounds 2 and 3 of the series at the expense of local rounds?

This will no doubt further prove and strengthen your initial post.
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Old 31 Oct 2017, 09:51 (Ref:3777729)   #799
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look let me just quote to you Mark Griffiths, he raced on the weekend (sourced in the 2018 thread and speedcafe)

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Whether you like it or not, that is what competitors have the opportunity to do, which is what GTR was saying
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Could be anyone Peckstar. For example - one or multiple competitors. Or SRO potentially as they are investing in the Asia Pacific region currently.

Its an option. 1 of 3 real options currently facing the category.

1) Cams run it.
2) V8SC make a competitive bid and gain the management lease rights
3) Another category manager / promoter is found
Or Quinnie keeps the management rights but contracts Supercars to run the operations. That could mean that the contract with CAMS stays in place but the outcome originally sought by AGT/VASC is delivered in a different way.
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