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Old 3 Nov 2017, 14:04 (Ref:3778357)   #726
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The Formula Teddy out the Pram sub-forum is still on here, ready to be revived.


One thing that strikes me.

Ferrari say that they don't want a global NASCAR with spec cars,
but if they set up their own series - isn't that exactly what they'd end up with.
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 12:26 (Ref:3778522)   #727
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Massa To Retire At End of 2017

One off Williams’ list...

Will Polish Bob drive in Abu Dhabi?
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 12:35 (Ref:3778523)   #728
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Well TBH, he was only called back at the last minute and while his experience has been invaluable to Williams with the new generation cars, it was hard to see him staying, so he took the only realistic action. Formula E it looks like for him now
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 14:40 (Ref:3778548)   #729
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Better to go with dignity and move on to something else than be dropped by Williams, which was looking more and more likely.
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 15:22 (Ref:3778549)   #730
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ASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
He was pretty much making a fool of himself already by trash talking the validity of the other potentials for his seat. Lost quite a bit of respect for him because of that.
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 18:13 (Ref:3778574)   #731
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In my life time it must be about the 50th time they have threatened to quit F1..
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"There are a couple of things we don't necessarily agree with, one of which is the fact that somehow powertrain uniqueness is not going to be one of the drivers of distinctiveness of the participants' line-up. I would not countenance this going forward.
Yeah it'd totally suck if everyone had the same engine. Imagine a world where everyone had to run a turbocharged 1.6L 90deg V6 with 120 kW battery unit, and nobody could run anything different. That'd be awful!
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 18:57 (Ref:3778576)   #732
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He was pretty much making a fool of himself already by trash talking the validity of the other potentials for his seat. Lost quite a bit of respect for him because of that.
I'm sure Felipe's respect for you remains as high as ever
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Old 4 Nov 2017, 20:11 (Ref:3778597)   #733
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He was pretty much making a fool of himself already by trash talking the validity of the other potentials for his seat. Lost quite a bit of respect for him because of that.
Man spoke the truth. Ain't no shame in that.
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Massa To Retire At End of 2017

One off Williams’ list...

Will Polish Bob drive in Abu Dhabi?
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Apparently, it's bye-bye Massa. For good.

Thank god for that!!
Looks like my prayers have been answered. Thank you God!
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Looks like my prayers have been answered. Thank you God!
It becomes a win when Williams puts a serious pilot into that slot...
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It becomes a win when Williams puts a serious pilot into that slot...
IMO, Kvyat or even Ericsson would probably do a better job than Massa.


The names currently being thrown around are, in no particular order; di Resta, Kubica, Kvyat, Wehrlien and Ericsson.

If it was up to me, it would be, in order; Kubica, Kubica, Kubica, Kubica and then Kubica.

But in reality, I think it would have to be, in order; Wehrlien, Kubica, Kvyat, di Resta and then Ericsson.
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It becomes a win when Williams puts a serious pilot into that slot...
Reckon Massa is by far the most serious driver of the touted replacements!

However, Massa will not be paying bucket loads of cash for the pleasure of turning up for work.
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Will Polish Bob get a Williams ride at Abu Dhabi?
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Will Polish Bob get a Williams ride at Abu Dhabi?
No, because a return to F1 will require him to repay a large insurance payout made to him in respect of injuries received not allowing him to ever return to racing an F1 car. If he was to do a one off GP drive he will lose / have to return that payout, and potentially fail to make a full time return, leaving him way out of pocket long term.
If he was to return for the full season he will presumably earn enough to cover the return of the insurance payout .
The payout is not affected by testing, just when he makes a GP race start and therefore officially becomes an F1 race driver again.
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No, because a return to F1 will require him to repay a large insurance payout made to him in respect of injuries received not allowing him to ever return to racing an F1 car. If he was to do a one off GP drive he will lose / have to return that payout, and potentially fail to make a full time return, leaving him way out of pocket long term.
If he was to return for the full season he will presumably earn enough to cover the return of the insurance payout .
The payout is not affected by testing, just when he makes a GP race start and therefore officially becomes an F1 race driver again.
That's exactly why Pironi never made a comeback to F1 after his injuries
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Maybe he should do the last F2 round to prove his ability to race.
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Lando Norris confirmed at McLaren for 2018.

Zak Brown: “Lando is an outstanding young talent. Today’s announcement is thoroughly deserved, and underlines the incredible high regard in which we hold his abilities. By winning last year in Formula Renault, triumphing in the McLaren Autosport BRDC Young Driver Award, and then showing the speed and consistency needed to win the European F3 championship, he is undoubtedly carving himself a reputation as one of the very best up-and-coming single-seater drivers in the world.

“His summer test for McLaren was also remarkably impressive, and was further proof that he is ready to step up and take on a role of this size, scope and responsibility.

“At McLaren, we are all extremely keen to help him achieve his goal of racing in Formula 1.”


http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/team...gn=LandoNorris
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Lando Norris confirmed at McLaren for 2018.

Zak Brown: “Lando is an outstanding young talent. Today’s announcement is thoroughly deserved, and underlines the incredible high regard in which we hold his abilities. By winning last year in Formula Renault, triumphing in the McLaren Autosport BRDC Young Driver Award, and then showing the speed and consistency needed to win the European F3 championship, he is undoubtedly carving himself a reputation as one of the very best up-and-coming single-seater drivers in the world.

“His summer test for McLaren was also remarkably impressive, and was further proof that he is ready to step up and take on a role of this size, scope and responsibility.

“At McLaren, we are all extremely keen to help him achieve his goal of racing in Formula 1.”



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Debuting at Monaco then?
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IMO, Kvyat or even Ericsson would probably do a better job than Massa.


The names currently being thrown around are, in no particular order; di Resta, Kubica, Kvyat, Wehrlien and Ericsson.

If it was up to me, it would be, in order; Kubica, Kubica, Kubica, Kubica and then Kubica.

But in reality, I think it would have to be, in order; Wehrlien, Kubica, Kvyat, di Resta and then Ericsson.
Earl Bamber?
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Bambers IMSA duties might get in the way of that.

As good a driver as he is, it isn't a name that would be considered for an F1 drive tbh.
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I’m glad Norris is getting the role at McLaren he deserves at this stage of his career
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Bambers IMSA duties might get in the way of that.

As good a driver as he is, it isn't a name that would be considered for an F1 drive tbh.
Danica Patrick?
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Good one

If I was to pick a soon-to-be-unemployed Porsche driver for an F1 driver, Tandy, Lotterer and Jani would be higher up the list for sure.
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Recent public poll result on who should get the Williams seat.


Kubica: 45%

Wehrlein: 16%

Kvyat: 12%

di Resta: 12%

Ericsson: 6%

Palmer: 2%

Other: 7%


Mr Other is doing better than Palmer.
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Not taking anything away from Kubica's recovery to get to where he is now. But you do have to wonder how much of that 45% is goodwill/sympathy, how much is reliving his past success and how much is genuinely he's the right man for the job.
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