[WEC] Ginetta LMP1

[LC2guy]

Good, lol. Only 5 mins to go !!!

[knighty]

any links yet?....

[rdjones]

Here it is - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...-pictures.html - At first glance I have to say I like it looks a very neat and tidy design.

[Mike E]

'Development car features 3.4 litre turbocharged Mecachrome designed and built engine'

hmmmmmm

[knighty]

totally agree......love the short stubby exhaust outlet either side of the fin.......very efficient design the hot-V engine layout......hope it flies and they sell a load more.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by knighty

totally agree......love the short stubby exhaust outlet either side of the fin.......very efficient design the hot-V engine layout......hope it flies and they sell a load more.

Why two tail pipes on a single turbo engine?

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Mike E

'Development car features 3.4 litre turbocharged Mecachrome designed and built engine'

hmmmmmm

The car unveiled today is not the Manor race car

[LC2guy]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

The car unveiled today is not the Manor race car

Interesting, are Manor using the Mechacrome Engine then ??

[knighty]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Why two tail pipes on a single turbo engine?

Looks like they will have employed a short stubby Y-piece to divide the flow either side of the fin......if you look closely at this image

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...-pictures.html

you can see both exhaust are angled, and must be linked to the same turbine outlet......its still single turbo for sure

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by knighty

Looks like they will have employed a short stubby Y-piece to divide the flow either side of the fin......if you look closely at this image

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...-pictures.html

you can see both exhaust are angled, and must be linked to the same turbine outlet......its still single turbo for sure

Definitely a single turbo - was at the factory on Saturday and saw the car up close and without bodywork

[joeb]

Originally Posted by rdjones

Here it is - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...-pictures.html - At first glance I have to say I like it looks a very neat and tidy design.

i like the looks of it. Let's hope the performance matches.

[canaglia]

Gave a quick eye, reminds me dallara

[Turbodcc]

Something I always wondered, what effect do those exhaust guards have when designing/tuning the exhaust system?

[knighty]

Originally Posted by Turbodcc

Something I always wondered, what effect do those exhaust guards have when designing/tuning the exhaust system?

To be honest, even I am flummoxed why the mesh guard are even present at the exhaust outlet, and not just a clean exit, this also seems to have been used on the Mechachrome demo engine in the press, so perhaps something unique to Mechachrome and the GP2 engine?.........I havent seen this technique before, even on a race motor.......But I will say that Mechachrome are not renowned turbo specialists, so perhaps it was something that the Turbo supplier talked them into.......BS baffles brains

[TF110]

You speaking about these?



I thought they were silencers to muffle the exhaust somewhat?

[chernaudi]

Look like the things that are stuck in the exhaust pipes of Super GT cars, which on those cars has something to I think with the cat converters they run.

[Skemer]

Originally Posted by TF110

You speaking about these?



I thought they were silencers to muffle the exhaust somewhat?

Huh what's up with these racing filters in the exhaust lol.No but seriously these really look like racing filters i know they're not but that was the first thing that sprung to mind.

[Skemer]

Could be a mock exhaust.As you look closely you can see these ridges on the inside.Can't remember ever seeing ridges like these in an exhaust,but i could be wrong of course.

[Deleted]

I'm confused, I thought everyone claimed this thing was 100% dead already?

TRS Manor Racing is so far the only confirmed customer but it was announced last year that another team has purchased three cars with a view to racing two.

Tomlinson said the identity of that team will be revealed “when they put the money down” but also said that there are three other teams “seriously looking at the car.”

“They are teams that we know have the budget and experience to do it,” he explained. “It’s really exciting. It’s at that point when people get their check books out, when they see the quality of the car.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...r-overall-win/

Or maybe that's usual political correctness when he knows there's nothing really there for that team, whatever it was/is

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Chiana

I'm confused, I thought everyone claimed this thing was 100% dead already?



http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...r-overall-win/

Or maybe that's usual political correctness when he knows there's nothing really there for that team, whatever it was/is

Maybe he's being a businessman and hyping the product to sell more by saying 'look who else has signed up'?

[Juntos]

Originally Posted by TF110

Maybe he's being a businessman and hyping the product to sell more by saying 'look who else has signed up'?

Bingo! Sales aren't going well.

[Starfish Primer]

You have BR already testing and Oreca building something for Rebellion. If you are a customer, what would you choose?

A car that still hasn't made a shakedown on a racing track from a newcomer who built a LMP3 2 years ago or a car from 2 manufacturers with a good proven racing record building prototypes in LMP2?

The Ginetta maybe great on track, but they need to show first it can be as quick and reliable as a BR or Oreca to get those customers.

[Deleted]

You can't buy Oreca from the shelf yet, Rebellion will be their 'special customer'. When Dragonspeed wanted to commit to Oreca they only had vague "we'll see I don't know" answers for supplying, which isn't exactly convincing and which is why they went elsewhere

So realistically that only leaves Ginetta and Dallara (well I guess also CLM) and while the Italian outfit sure was quicker to get things going and not screw around, I don't think it's particularly any safer choice... their build quality in LMP2 has also been just as shaky as Ginetta's in LMP3

Hopefully all of these chassis - incl Oreca - make it to the collective 30 hour test at HTTT

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Chiana

You can't buy Oreca from the shelf yet, Rebellion will be their 'special customer'. When Dragonspeed wanted to commit to Oreca they only had vague "we'll see I don't know" answers for supplying, which isn't exactly convincing and which is why they went elsewhere

So realistically that only leaves Ginetta and Dallara (well I guess also CLM) and while the Italian outfit sure was quicker to get things going and not screw around, I don't think it's particularly any safer choice... their build quality in LMP2 has also been just as shaky as Ginetta's in LMP3

Hopefully all of these chassis - incl Oreca - make it to the collective 30 hour test at HTTT

I'd stick up for the Dallara in Caddy form, and say there aren't build quality issues. But yes they had issues at le mans with the stock P2.

[knighty]

I thought some more Ginetta LMP1 teams were going to be announced at the Autosport Show, but obviously not.......perhaps they want to see its real speed in a test first?.........

first WEC race is 5th May, so its now less than 4 months to the first race........I feel its probably now too late for any new LMP1 teams to commit?.....or am I mistaken?.....