Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued... - Page 116

pete60 · 27 Jul 2009, 08:56 (Ref:2508923)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

It's an ex-Perkins car but it has HRT livery, WTF?

New cage in 2004! Why? Did he think he can do a better job than Larry?

It's fitted with a Jericho box and described as ready to race............. As what?

This car is loosely based around Perkins chassis #25 written off by Gary Quartly at Phillip Island many moons ago when owned by Neil Schembri. Mork got the chassis and slowly rebuilt it but I suspect not a lot of the original chassis remains. Which explains the Jericho box and the revised cage, all of which is reflected in the asking price.

Crash Test · 28 Jul 2009, 01:51 (Ref:2509628)

Some new and different Group As and Cs were at the Morgan Park HRCC Nationals on the weekend-

More pics here

Mr Walker · 28 Jul 2009, 04:32 (Ref:2509651)

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Originally Posted by pete60

This car is loosely based around Perkins chassis #25 written off by Gary Quartly at Phillip Island many moons ago when owned by Neil Schembri. Mork got the chassis and slowly rebuilt it but I suspect not a lot of the original chassis remains. Which explains the Jericho box and the revised cage, all of which is reflected in the asking price.

Pete60 - very diplomatic - I agree that the asking price reflects the car's providence (or lack thereof). Has this been rebuilt or is it a re-shell? Could it be raced historically as a V8 Supercar or is it's 're-birth' post the applicable time frame.

The bit I don't understand is that Mork owned it, it was sold and the new owner had the HRT paint scheme applied, sold again(?) and then back to Mork? - or did it go straight back to Morky? Any clues?

David Towe · 28 Jul 2009, 08:22 (Ref:2509721)

What's the history of the Clift car at Morgan Park on the weekend? I don't remember it.

Monaro · 28 Jul 2009, 08:26 (Ref:2509723)

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Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Pete60 - very diplomatic - I agree that the asking price reflects the car's providence (or lack thereof). Has this been rebuilt or is it a re-shell? Could it be raced historically as a V8 Supercar or is it's 're-birth' post the applicable time frame.

The bit I don't understand is that Mork owned it, it was sold and the new owner had the HRT paint scheme applied, sold again(?) and then back to Mork? - or did it go straight back to Morky? Any clues?

Car was bought from Morky had a bucket load of money spent on it then painted in HRT colours.The owner gave up spending money on it as it was turning into a bottomless money pit and sold car back to Morky

Sultan · 28 Jul 2009, 11:18 (Ref:2509849)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

What's the history of the Clift car at Morgan Park on the weekend? I don't remember it.

The Clift car ran the local (QLD) rounds 85/86, a locally buit car abit like the Smerdon (Lester, not Chris) "Highway Patrol" car. Can't recall if there were any MHDT bits in it,or if it started life as a Gp C car (the smerdon car did FYI) but it in the photo it looks like '86 spec. In '85 it definitely ran the 5L/4 speed combo.

A one owner car (!), in the '90's it ran sporadically in Sports Sedans...

Sultan · 28 Jul 2009, 11:19 (Ref:2509851)

BTW, anyone know of any GP A class cars for sale?

Camaroz · 29 Jul 2009, 01:26 (Ref:2510371)

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Originally Posted by Group'C'

in 82 - 16 VH Bodyshells were produced by GMH, the body plate had RACING 1 to 16 instead of a chassis #

They were built as rollers all painted white, No sound deadner,Velour covered brown back seats- no front seats, power steering rack, all panels(dont know if they were light weight ones) & Glass

Unsure who got them all, I do know of

RE-Car x 2
Roadways x 2
MHDT x 2 ?

Any one know of the others

Warren Cullen x 2 Maybe

Janson x 1 (new car in 84)
Benson-Brown x 1 (used in rebuild end of 82)
Phil Lyon x 2 (new car in 82 now Garry Collins, the other is now a road car on ebay)

DAVID PATERSON · 29 Jul 2009, 02:55 (Ref:2510399)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

What's the history of the Clift car at Morgan Park on the weekend? I don't remember it.

Wayne Clift ordered a Holden motorsport shell in 1986 and built the car himself. It has never been owned by anyone else! When Group A fell over Wayne raced the car occasionally in Qld Sport Sedan events, but still in Group A spec.

DAVID PATERSON · 29 Jul 2009, 03:00 (Ref:2510404)

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Originally Posted by Sultan

BTW, anyone know of any GP A class cars for sale?

The Xerox shop Starion was sold last week and will return to the track shortly. The Dulux Alfa is still for sale. I'm not aware of any Corollas presently on the market. There's an Asian E30 M3 in bits for $110K and a Brock E30 M3 for $276K. IMO, the best buy of all is the Peter Jackson DR30 for $145K. Hmmm, do i really need two kidneys?

mtpanorama · 29 Jul 2009, 03:13 (Ref:2510407)

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Originally Posted by Sultan

BTW, anyone know of any GP A class cars for sale?

This is for sale

redesp · 29 Jul 2009, 03:14 (Ref:2510408)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

The Xerox shop Starion was sold last week and will return to the track shortly. The Dulux Alfa is still for sale. I'm not aware of any Corollas presently on the market. There's an Asian E30 M3 in bits for $110K and a Brock E30 M3 for $276K. IMO, the best buy of all is the Peter Jackson DR30 for $145K. Hmmm, do i really need two kidneys?

Dave, do you know what the asking $$ for the alfa is.. I've seen the youtube of it running around QR against the Bryan Byrt XC.. great footage

DAVID PATERSON · 29 Jul 2009, 03:15 (Ref:2510410)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

This is for sale

I dare not ask the price! Looking at something that good gives me a pain in the wallet.

mtpanorama · 29 Jul 2009, 03:23 (Ref:2510416)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

I dare not ask the price! Looking at something that good gives me a pain in the wallet.

230k

David Towe · 29 Jul 2009, 06:48 (Ref:2510468)

Terry Ashwood has a couple of Nissans for sale I'm told.

Mr Walker · 29 Jul 2009, 06:51 (Ref:2510470)

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Originally Posted by Camaroz

Janson x 1 (new car in 84)
Benson-Brown x 1 (used in rebuild end of 82)
Phil Lyon x 2 (new car in 82 now Garry Collins, the other is now a road car on ebay)

Camaroz,

So did the second Phil Lyon car ever race or was it a spare (unraced) shell as spelled out in the Ebay ad?

Mr Walker · 29 Jul 2009, 07:42 (Ref:2510504)

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Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Pete60 - very diplomatic - I agree that the asking price reflects the car's providence (or lack thereof). Has this been rebuilt or is it a re-shell? Could it be raced historically as a V8 Supercar or is it's 're-birth' post the applicable time frame.

The bit I don't understand is that Mork owned it, it was sold and the new owner had the HRT paint scheme applied, sold again(?) and then back to Mork? - or did it go straight back to Morky? Any clues?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monaro

Car was bought from Morky had a bucket load of money spent on it then painted in HRT colours.The owner gave up spending money on it as it was turning into a bottomless money pit and sold car back to Morky

Any idea if the shell was rebuilt or if it is a re-shell?

Monaro · 29 Jul 2009, 10:10 (Ref:2510629)

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Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Pete60 - very diplomatic - I agree that the asking price reflects the car's providence (or lack thereof). Has this been rebuilt or is it a re-shell? Could it be raced historically as a V8 Supercar or is it's 're-birth' post the applicable time frame.

The bit I don't understand is that Mork owned it, it was sold and the new owner had the HRT paint scheme applied, sold again(?) and then back to Mork? - or did it go straight back to Morky? Any clues?

Any idea if the shell was rebuilt or if it is a re-shell?

I saw it advertised a couple of years ago as being reshelled.The main problem was most of the parts used were fairly tired

**GTRMagic** · 29 Jul 2009, 22:26 (Ref:2511247)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

The Moffat run Niedwiedz/Beila 1990 ANZ Sierra

Mr Niedzwiedz is a bit aggressive with Dr Bob's car

Camaroz · 30 Jul 2009, 01:27 (Ref:2511339)

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Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Camaroz,

So did the second Phil Lyon car ever race or was it a spare (unraced) shell as spelled out in the Ebay ad?

Spare un-raced.

A bit more on the VH Race Shells.

According to Auto Action, No. 283, Friday Jan 1 1982....

13 shells were ordered, to be produced.

MHDT had orders (options) for four, MHDT already had one (?).
Benson-Brown x one.
Peter Janson x one.
Neil Cunningham x one.
Roadways x two.
Warren Cullen x two.
ReCar x one plus an option on another.

= 13! Where did 16 come from?

Phil Lyon got two of the MHDT option cars, apparently PB organised the deal.

As the MHDT would have been left with two, that would mean chassis' four (82 Bathurst) and five (83 Bathurst) were used.
Janson built a new VH for 84.
Benson-Brown, used in rebuild end 82.
Phil Lyon built one, itp car (Gary Collins) and the second is on ebay now as a road car.
ReCar built two new cars, the second being the 100mph car.
Roadways built at least one (Elvis?)
Neil Cunningham sold his car to Bernie Stack, not known if he ever took delivery of his VH.
Cullen?
Any more clues?

Group'C' · 30 Jul 2009, 10:19 (Ref:2511525)

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Originally Posted by Camaroz

Spare un-raced.

A bit more on the VH Race Shells.

According to Auto Action, No. 283, Friday Jan 1 1982....

13 shells were ordered, to be produced.

MHDT had orders (options) for four, MHDT already had one (?).
Benson-Brown x one.
Peter Janson x one.
Neil Cunningham x one.
Roadways x two.
Warren Cullen x two.
ReCar x one plus an option on another.

= 13! Where did 16 come from?

Phil Lyon got two of the MHDT option cars, apparently PB organised the deal.

As the MHDT would have been left with two, that would mean chassis' four (82 Bathurst) and five (83 Bathurst) were used.
Janson built a new VH for 84.
Benson-Brown, used in rebuild end 82.
Phil Lyon built one, itp car (Gary Collins) and the second is on ebay now as a road car.
ReCar built two new cars, the second being the 100mph car.
Roadways built at least one (Elvis?)
Neil Cunningham sold his car to Bernie Stack, not known if he ever took delivery of his VH.
Cullen?
Any more clues?

Roadways built chassis #4 in 82 which ended up being 'Elvis'
there second shell was chassis #16 which I think was built into an STP car for 83

The 100mph Re-car chassis was not one of the VH race shells (its log book was issued 21/4/82 before the VH Race shells were released and has a standard car chassis #), the car raced before that became the 2nd car for the rest of 82

gt4v · 30 Jul 2009, 11:57 (Ref:2511596)

l have just purchased the Ex John Lord Group C Mini Cooper S.
The car ran 1974 and 1975 Sandown and Bathurst's.
l am looking for any photo's of the car along with any other info on the car.

Troy Stapleton.

Sultan · 31 Jul 2009, 01:44 (Ref:2512090)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

230k

Thats a bloody expensive Alfa!!

DAVID PATERSON · 31 Jul 2009, 02:21 (Ref:2512102)

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Thats a bloody expensive Alfa!!

No silly, it's $230K for Moffat's '87 Sierra. You'd get change from $100K for the Dulux Alfa.

David Towe · 31 Jul 2009, 07:54 (Ref:2512198)

And the Dulux Alfa raced in both Group A and C, so if you buy it you've got options

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