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Why would bigger motors necessarily exceed this? They could quite happily match the current output, and be less stressed, meaning, hopefully, increased reliability and decreased costs. I think you'll find they'll need to 'neuter' 6 cylinder turbos to match the current V8's. |
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Dont think we currently have reliability issues regarding motors, and by bigger im talking v10s and v8 turbos
and your comment regarding v6 turbos contradicts your comment regarding bigger motors, because now you have created stress. Yes we can make them go quicker than the current 5l motor but heck we can make the 5l go quicker than the current 5l motor. But we dont because we are happy with the current output. We are not a run what ya brung series, we are a parity series, we are not a horsepower race |
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So, because there's a couple extra cylinders, or a turbo strapped to a V8, we couldn't 'neuter' them down to match an NA V8? We may not have (many) reliability issues currently, but we certainly have cost issues. I'm guessing (and yes, it is just a guess) that the Holden team that is suggesting a 6L crate motor is doing it purely for cost reasons, rather than your logic of "big motor equals big power". |
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As along as manufacturers are involved, I agree, not sure crate motors would be acceptable to those involved. If however the series goes away from being manufacturer based I'd love to see the same crate motor in every car - true engine parity, controversial fuel drop rule not needed, massive cost decrease etc etc. |
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10 Mar 2016, 23:53 (Ref:3621991) | #307 | |
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Pecky do you have much mechanical knowledge? Not having a crack, just curious.
The bigger V8 is purely for cost reasons, cheaper to build, less stressed so longer times between rebuilds, the list goes on and on. Current engines are $100,000+ each and that is ridiculous as well as unnecessary. Parity with different configurations isn't that hard when using restrictors. The V6 turbo will smash the V8 without being hobbled. |
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let me repeat my was response to "Why not turbo V8s? Why not V10? Why not rotary? Why not supercharged V12? Why not run what ya brung?" however with your wisdom, if that's true regarding the V6 twin turbo motor, why does the Nissan GT3 car produce less kw and torque than a v8 supercar? I look forward to it being hobbled if thats the case. Last edited by peckstar; 11 Mar 2016 at 00:43. |
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If a Ferrari 488 GT3 car is actually close to the $900k rumoured to be list price... what might the engine be worth in one of those?
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I wonder if a Supercar motor can run for 12 or 24 hours race pace reliably, with sometimes less than professional drivers abusing it???
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The fact the Nissan GT3 engine produces as much power as it does is quite a feat due to the tiny size of its restrictors. To generate the amount of boost they run with such a small intake is really quite a difficult task. If you honestly believe the current supercar engine would outperform an unrestricted 3.8L twin turbo you are sadly mistaken. |
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And why would any intelligent person compare a restricted v8 motor to an unrestricted v6 turbo motor, Thats just a stupid thought pattern. Repeating for the 3rd time this was response to "Why not turbo V8s? Why not V10? Why not rotary? Why not supercharged V12? Why not run what ya brung?" |
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Michelotto live up to that name in having to be a lotto winner to afford their cars, spare parts and technical assistance. Nice to have a monopoly on things isn't it? I wish Phil was still posting here, I'm sure he'd have a good insight into how expensive dealing with Michelotto can be. |
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Following a dominant showing at the penultimate Misano Sprint round, the team already paid a visit the Michelotto workshop to have a look at the Ferrari 488 GTB in GT3 specification. With a price upwards of at least 525,000 Euros ($595,000 USD), the car is believed to be the most expensive GT3 racer of the new generation. |
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Ive owned turbo charged cars since the 80s, I know what can be done with them and i also know that v8s are a parity motor built to a level, much more could be done with them but they are held at a level, HP hasnt change much since the 90s |
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