2016 VASC Silly Season - Page 14

billybanana · 15 Jul 2015, 02:59 (Ref:3558671)

I don't normally find Davey all that funny - but that was an absolute corker. Made Phelps look like a complete ****** (which isn't that hard to do anyway)

FPV8U · 16 Jul 2015, 04:41 (Ref:3558886)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

With Mr Ambrose not announcing his future plans til after Gold Coast, and Mr Coulthard reportedly contractually unable to sign a new deal until October, do the planets intersect magically here?

Seems the only people in a rush are those outside being actually involved in the situation, gives both teams and drivers the better part of the whole season to evaluate where they want to go.

I'd be very surprised if Tekno isn't fighting hardest for the signature of Fabs, being in essentially a 4th T8 entry despite their current form would be a hard option to reject no matter who else was putting offers on the table.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jul 2015, 06:35 (Ref:3558896)

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Seems the only people in a rush are those outside being actually involved in the situation, gives both teams and drivers the better part of the whole season to evaluate where they want to go.

I'd be very surprised if Tekno isn't fighting hardest for the signature of Fabs, being in essentially a 4th T8 entry despite their current form would be a hard option to reject no matter who else was putting offers on the table.

Honestly, I am tiring of the speculation and news stories and junk around the 'will he or wont he drive' stuff that has been at every round since Mr Ambrose stepped out of the car.

If the team knows the answer, share it, stop the speculation... stop fueling an expectation and not delivering. It might afford the squad column inches, but that's about all it does...

peckstar · 16 Jul 2015, 07:21 (Ref:3558901)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Honestly, I am tiring of the speculation and news stories and junk around the 'will he or wont he drive' stuff that has been at every round since Mr Ambrose stepped out of the car.

If the team knows the answer, share it, stop the speculation... stop fueling an expectation and not delivering. It might afford the squad column inches, but that's about all it does...

Dont blame the team, blame the media and social networks.

Marcos will be driving in the enduros, he will compete in some practise sessions, he will make his mind up during the enduros. Expect an announcement some time after bathurst but more likely Gold coast.

davester · 16 Jul 2015, 07:56 (Ref:3558907)

Very POOR FORM of Phelps to say publicly that SCA do not want Slade next year. Its so typical of modern media to trash the lesser participants, while protecting their favourites. Maybe SCA should look at shifting their budget to a team where they will not rank as the No.3 car. BJR could be a good place to land, and they'd be treated like kings. WP has never been a great place for the 3rd and 4th car.

davester · 16 Jul 2015, 08:06 (Ref:3558910)

And while I'm here, Ambrose really should call it a day in V8SC, and if he wants to continue driving, go to LeMans or international GT racing. He'd have plenty of connections in the US, where he is still regarded as a circuit genius...every time he steps into a V8SC and steps back out again saying he doesn't enjoy it anymore, he'll look like someone who has lost the hunger to figure out something that no longer comes naturally.

The pointy end of V8SC is only for those willing to give their left one, and he is clearly not in that place.

peckstar · 16 Jul 2015, 08:07 (Ref:3558911)

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Originally Posted by davester

Very POOR FORM of Phelps to say publicly that SCA do not want Slade next year. Its so typical of modern media to trash the lesser participants, while protecting their favourites. Maybe SCA should look at shifting their budget to a team where they will not rank as the No.3 car. BJR could be a good place to land, and they'd be treated like kings. WP has never been a great place for the 3rd and 4th car.

Supercheap do not have an agreement with walkinshaw racing next year. Its recent history has been linked with drivers who they can promote. Yet we have seen little if any promotion of slade

It may very well be there is truth to this thought pattern

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jul 2015, 08:23 (Ref:3558914)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Dont blame the team, blame the media and social networks.

Marcos will be driving in the enduros, he will compete in some practise sessions, he will make his mind up during the enduros. Expect an announcement some time after bathurst but more likely Gold coast.

The team could stop speculation but choose not to do so...

peckstar · 16 Jul 2015, 10:19 (Ref:3558932)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The team could stop speculation but choose not to do so...

How can they do so if they don't know? They have announced they will make a decision after the enduros

**GTRMagic** · 17 Jul 2015, 02:57 (Ref:3559095)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

How can they do so if they don't know? They have announced they will make a decision after the enduros

They either do or should know. No team is bigger than one man, even if that man is Marcos Ambrose.

peckstar · 17 Jul 2015, 03:08 (Ref:3559096)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

They either do or should know. No team is bigger than one man, even if that man is Marcos Ambrose.

so where is Fab racing, based on your theory it should be known.

and who is replacing Slade at walkinshaw, they should tell us, because they should know.

Its July, why would teams have to tell us in July what is happening in 2016. lets concentrate on 2015 first

FPV8U · 17 Jul 2015, 03:36 (Ref:3559099)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

They either do or should know. No team is bigger than one man, even if that man is Marcos Ambrose.

Perhaps they have a definitive yes if he feels his performance is up to scratch in the endurance races.

There are alot of scenarios that could be in play and we know 100% their intentions until after the GC600 which is still 3 months and 5 rounds away.

The pressure is really on Fabs, he is the one looking at playing musical chairs until the last moment..

Bjr looking at 1, 2 or 3 new drivers and sponsorship uncertain outside freightliner.
CSR without sponsorship locked in.
SCAR without a driver or supply deal locked in.
GRM with possible second seat movement.
Tekno completely up in the air.
The superblack scenario without a REC locked in.

DjrTP seem to have an unfair amount of focus in the scheme of things.

Axeman444 · 17 Jul 2015, 04:32 (Ref:3559105)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

so where is Fab racing, based on your theory it should be known.

and who is replacing Slade at walkinshaw, they should tell us, because they should know.

It would only be known where drivers are driving if contracts have been signed. Ambrose has a contract. Fabs and Slade don't that we are aware of.

**gomick** · 17 Jul 2015, 22:07 (Ref:3559241)

Does Slade deserve a contract?
Apart from Cameron Waters coming thru the Dunlop Series, are there any other drivers who could step upto the main game?

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jul 2015, 08:53 (Ref:3559291)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

It would only be known where drivers are driving if contracts have been signed. Ambrose has a contract. Fabs and Slade don't that we are aware of.

Mr Coulthard apparently has a clause in his contract that he cannot negotiate to sign elsewhere until October. What isnt clear is if BJR have a last rights clause to keep him there.

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jul 2015, 09:06 (Ref:3559293)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Does Slade deserve a contract?

Its hard to understand why the performance from Mr Slade or Mr Holdsworth at the WP 'B' team has been inconsistent (read: poor) relative to the other Holden runners, and indeed their teammates.

Mr Burgess seems to be a fan of Mr Slade, but that said the whole team was supposedly a fan of Mr Percat, and he got thrown away like last week's Auto Action...

While we cannot begin to know SuperCheap's marketing objectives, one of them surely is that the race car is shown on the teev sometimes, which right not, it isnt... and since moving to WP, really hasnt... performance (or lack thereof) possibly the only continuing theme

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jul 2015, 09:09 (Ref:3559295)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Apart from Cameron Waters coming thru the Dunlop Series, are there any other drivers who could step upto the main game?

Still not sure about Mr Waters. There has been a transformation in consistency since last season, but what does that translate to in the main game, when he doesnt have arguably the only good mouse trap.

He will be in the same car as Mr Mostert in the enduros (reportedly), so we can make direct comparisons fairly easily..

FPV8U · 18 Jul 2015, 10:34 (Ref:3559304)

2012 when Slade was often the lead car for SBR in the #47 must seem a long time ago for him, even 2013 he was a mile in front of the other merc drivers.

Hopefully he can land a more competitive ride for next year.

mayhem · 18 Jul 2015, 22:08 (Ref:3559393)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Still not sure about Mr Waters. There has been a transformation in consistency since last season, but what does that translate to in the main game, when he doesnt have arguably the only good mouse trap.

I agree. He's no doubt fast but when in a pack he has a history of bending cars including other peoples. Good luck to him this year (right team, right time) but I wonder about his racecraft particularly when under pressure.

Mixer · 18 Jul 2015, 22:37 (Ref:3559398)

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Originally Posted by mayhem

I agree. He's no doubt fast but when in a pack he has a history of bending cars including other peoples. Good luck to him this year (right team, right time) but I wonder about his racecraft particularly when under pressure.

Then again one J.Dub and a James Courtney also showed the same sort of issue early in their V8 careers.

Or maybe Courtney never got rid of it judging by recent history, but either way he's a series champion!

mayhem · 18 Jul 2015, 22:41 (Ref:3559399)

Every now and then speed can overcome silliness...

Denosaur · 20 Jul 2015, 03:11 (Ref:3559639)

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Originally Posted by mayhem

I agree. He's no doubt fast but when in a pack he has a history of bending cars including other peoples. Good luck to him this year (right team, right time) but I wonder about his racecraft particularly when under pressure.

There was a time that I rated his talent, but in an interview after a round at QR 2 or 3 years back where he ran behind Lowndes for some time, they asked him if he learned any tricks from Lowndes, and he bluntly came out and said no, whilst his body language said I don't need to learn anything from that guy. That just says to me that he's a stuck up little..........of a driver.

I know for a fact that drivers over the years have said that they need to adapt, whether for the car, to beat there team mate, to find an edge or anything else. Those guys career's have gone the distance!

**gomick** · 20 Jul 2015, 10:56 (Ref:3559698)

Um, the above quote was about Mr Waters - do you mean Mr Slade ran behind Lowndes 2 or 3 years back?

**GTRMagic** · 21 Jul 2015, 07:14 (Ref:3559944)

So, Mr Dane reckons DJRTP should sign Mr Pye for next season Here which creates a question.. given that 888 is expanding to 3 cars next season, if Mr Pye was so fantabulous, how is it that Mr van Gisbergen has the 3rd seat there?

**gomick** · 21 Jul 2015, 09:20 (Ref:3559968)

And who does Mr Dane think he is having an opinion on who DJRTP should sign & why is anyone evening listening?

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