V8ST - 2014/15

[pukekoheracer]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I've just read some background info on the nzgp debacle on velocities fb page.....hold your head in shame MSNZ. Why oh why do you continue to quash any possible opportunity to get things moving forward in this country? MSNZ seems to take some sort of perverse pleasure out of c**king things up everytime. No wonder so many categories dont want anything to do with them.
Please note my rant is not aimed at Crunch, I appreciate you being on here. This is aimed right at Brian Budd. Seems that Manfield were quite keen on the shared risk model offered by ST, and ST offered significant contribution to promoting the event and this idea got slammed by Budd who tells us they have appointed another promoter! Is that really the job of the so called governing body.....I think not.
Take your blinkers off Budd and MSNZ....you are the ones killing this aspect of the sport, not the renegade maverick bad boy cant do anything right STs

For crying out loud....this is not rocket science!

What I would like to Know, who's this "Mystery Promoter" being kept under wraps. The early Money will have to be on Fine/Cooper and Co

[raymond]

Originally Posted by pukekoheracer

What I would like to Know, who's this "Mystery Promoter" being kept under wraps. The early Money will have to be on Fine/Cooper and Co

It is a sports promotion company based in Wellington lead by an ex-All Black.
They have taken on the role that Montego filled until we could find a promoter. So James K, no cost to members. In contrast to what the emotive posts are saying, this IS MSNZ getting out totally of promotion.

They have the rights to promote events and to help minimise the $$ risk from the circuit owners.

So hopefully that clears that up?

[JamesK]

Originally Posted by raymond

..
So hopefully that clears that up?

Hmm, not quite

Velocity's post stated:
Motorsport NZ General Manager Brian Budd conceded in emails knowledge of V8 SuperTourers wishing to assist with promotion of the NZGP meeting, but went on to say that Motorsport NZ had secured an "independent promoter" for the event

"MSNZ has engaged an independent promoter to promote the Toyota International Series excluding the NZGP Round which is being promoted by Manfeild Park. Manfeild Park was awarded hosting and promotion rights to the NZGP event through a bid process late last year

As far as MSNZ is aware Manfeild is still committed to hosting and promoting the NZGP event."

So who IS the promotor for Manfield, the above statements appear to contradict each other.
If it is Manfield, whats stopping them have ST assist. I would have thought there be no need to go back to the original bidders as MAnfiled was he winner and still is the promotor, just with assistance.

[MS Fan]

Originally Posted by JamesK

Hmm, not quite

Velocity's post stated:
Motorsport NZ General Manager Brian Budd conceded in emails knowledge of V8 SuperTourers wishing to assist with promotion of the NZGP meeting, but went on to say that Motorsport NZ had secured an "independent promoter" for the event

"MSNZ has engaged an independent promoter to promote the Toyota International Series excluding the NZGP Round which is being promoted by Manfeild Park. Manfeild Park was awarded hosting and promotion rights to the NZGP event through a bid process late last year

As far as MSNZ is aware Manfeild is still committed to hosting and promoting the NZGP event."

So who IS the promotor for Manfield, the above statements appear to contradict each other.
If it is Manfield, whats stopping them have ST assist. I would have thought there be no need to go back to the original bidders as MAnfiled was he winner and still is the promotor, just with assistance.

Everything I have seen indicates MSNZ is not the promoter of the NZGP meeting, it is Manfeild and while NZST have been invited and want to attend the meeting they have contractual obiligations that mean they want/need 2 other classes to run at meeting, so a situation of their own making for not being able to accept the invitation. So far Manfeild & NZST's have not reached agreement but discussions are on going. So not sure why people think MSNZ are stopping this happening, is there something I have missed ?

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by raymond

It is a sports promotion company based in Wellington lead by an ex-All Black.
They have taken on the role that Montego filled until we could find a promoter. So James K, no cost to members. In contrast to what the emotive posts are saying, this IS MSNZ getting out totally of promotion.

They have the rights to promote events and to help minimise the $$ risk from the circuit owners.

So hopefully that clears that up?

Christian Cullen and his company.

[promax]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I've just read some background info on the nzgp debacle on velocities fb page.....hold your head in shame MSNZ. Why oh why do you continue to quash any possible opportunity to get things moving forward in this country? MSNZ seems to take some sort of perverse pleasure out of c**king things up everytime. No wonder so many categories dont want anything to do with them.
Please note my rant is not aimed at Crunch, I appreciate you being on here. This is aimed right at Brian Budd. Seems that Manfield were quite keen on the shared risk model offered by ST, and ST offered significant contribution to promoting the event and this idea got slammed by Budd who tells us they have appointed another promoter! Is that really the job of the so called governing body.....I think not.
Take your blinkers off Budd and MSNZ....you are the ones killing this aspect of the sport, not the renegade maverick bad boy cant do anything right STs

For crying out loud....this is not rocket science!

really fan?

[NZSTfan]

Originally Posted by promax

really fan?

Yep. Every word.

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I've just read some background info on the nzgp debacle on velocities fb page.....hold your head in shame MSNZ. Why oh why do you continue to quash any possible opportunity to get things moving forward in this country? MSNZ seems to take some sort of perverse pleasure out of c**king things up everytime. No wonder so many categories dont want anything to do with them.
Please note my rant is not aimed at Crunch, I appreciate you being on here. This is aimed right at Brian Budd. Seems that Manfield were quite keen on the shared risk model offered by ST, and ST offered significant contribution to promoting the event and this idea got slammed by Budd who tells us they have appointed another promoter! Is that really the job of the so called governing body.....I think not.
Take your blinkers off Budd and MSNZ....you are the ones killing this aspect of the sport, not the renegade maverick bad boy cant do anything right STs

For crying out loud....this is not rocket science!

Err ********, v8st signed on petch with his utes and the other utes. they ****ed up no one else.

adding 2 othier classes will draw everything out, now the supercars is moving its round its tba and a season calender hs never been complete

[promax]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Err ********, v8st signed on petch with his utes and the other utes. they ****ed up no one else.

adding 2 othier classes will draw everything out, now the supercars is moving its round its tba and a season calender hs never been complete

yep!

[NZSTfan]

I can't interpret your post blackpearl..

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I can't interpret your post blackpearl..

Can probably be summed up by the word 'Trolling'.

Blackpearl, I'm sure you have knowledge, information or opinion that would add to this thread and provide topic for discussion. So it's a shame all you ever do is throw turds from a distance and from under cover of anonymity.

If you have something useful, please share it in a manner that's consistent with the rules of the site to which you agreed when you signed up (if you're struggling, you can find them here. Otherwise, please desist because it's boring and annoying and wastes my time.

Thank you

[Goat Boy]

Until Budd and Harris are gone nobody can move anywhere.

[CDM]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Until Budd and Harris are gone nobody can move anywhere.

Brian Budd is an employee of the sport whereas Shane Harris is elected to his position, so if you feel that is the answer then either stand against Shane at the AGCM or nominate & get someone else to..... Simple!!

[RogerH]

Originally Posted by CDM

Brian Budd is an employee of the sport whereas Shane Harris is elected to his position, so if you feel that is the answer then either stand against Shane at the AGCM or nominate & get someone else to..... Simple!!

My understanding is that Shayne Harris is not standing for re-election so in any event there will be a new MSNZ President at the end of his term.

[adbutler]

Haven't seen a list of who's driving with who for the enduro's yet. Here's what I've seen posted so far:
Dom Storey/Dale Wood
Tim Edgell/Steve Owen
Chris Hanley/Daniel Gaunt
Mitch Cunningham/Cam Waters
Simon Evans/SVG
Andre Heimgartner/Paul Morris
Greg Murphy/Jack Perkins
Mark Gibson/John McIntyre

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by adbutler

Haven't seen a list of who's driving with who for the enduro's yet. Here's what I've seen posted so far:
Dom Storey/Dale Wood
Tim Edgell/Steve Owen
Chris Hanley/Daniel Gaunt
Mitch Cunningham/Cam Waters
Simon Evans/SVG
Andre Heimgartner/Paul Morris
Greg Murphy/Jack Perkins
Mark Gibson/John McIntyre

Paul Manuell/Shae Davies
Richard Moor/Tim Slade
Shaun Varney/?
Andrew Waite/?
Ant Pedersen/C...............
Angus Fogg/ Tony Delberto

[adbutler]

Cheers Mark.
Who's Andrew Waite driving for now that Tasman won't be there? And have you heard anything about the proposed Ken Smith car?

[The Realist]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Paul Manuell/Shae Davies
Richard Moor/Tim Slade
Shaun Varney/?
Andrew Waite/?
Ant Pedersen/C...............
Angus Fogg/ Tony Delberto

Now we can move Paul Manuel and Shae Davies up to the confirmed list.
This now gives our list 9 confirmed starters with 1 week to go.
Lets try to confirm some more, 1 a day would be nice.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by The Realist

Now we can move Paul Manuel and Shae Davies up to the confirmed list.
This now gives our list 9 confirmed starters with 1 week to go.
Lets try to confirm some more, 1 a day would be nice.

Their are 13 Confirmed entries, the fact that two teams, International, and Varney Motorsport have not publicly announced their second drivers doesn't change the Confirmed entries.

[The Realist]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Their are 13 Confirmed entries, the fact that two teams, International, and Varney Motorsport have not publicly announced their second drivers doesn't change the Confirmed entries.

So lets advertise that we have 24 drivers and 13 cars racing, how does this work.

[20b]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Their are 13 Confirmed entries, the fact that two teams, International, and Varney Motorsport have not publicly announced their second drivers doesn't change the Confirmed entries.

Which car is Varney driving? Not the Ex-SVG SuperTourer is it?

[Woolley]

To avoid even more thread confusion I've moved the NZ rally posts to here

[Goat Boy]

Tell you what, the low numbers of both V8 classes will be a real embarrassment if they are not sorted by the time of the V8 Supercars - we don't want to be showcasing grids of 10 - 14 cars in front of 30,000+ spectators, that will put them right off coming back for other events. I don't think TL's should be on the same track as the ST's but I do think the TLX's can and should, even if they are racing in their own class.
Otherwise we might as well just bin the whole idea of "top tier" V8 saloon racing and concentrate on building up a proper GT grid.

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Tell you what, the low numbers of both V8 classes will be a real embarrassment if they are not sorted by the time of the V8 Supercars - we don't want to be showcasing grids of 10 - 14 cars in front of 30,000+ spectators

I saw the TV promo for Taupo tonight stating 20 seven litre V8's.....

Are there some potential advertising issues there do you think?

[HProject]

Originally Posted by on_to_it

I saw the TV promo for Taupo tonight stating 20 seven litre V8's.....

Are there some potential advertising issues there do you think?

They're still running those ads? If I was V8ST I would've recalled those ads long before now and altered them. They also still state that the series is going to the NZGP - which is in doubt to put it lightly.