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24 Jan 2013, 20:16 (Ref:3193837) | #26 | ||
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Grids held out well in 2011 as well generally up around the 20 mark and topping 30 at the Euro events but took a dip last year with the intro of the E/B and the division of the grid between E/B's & Duratecs. I will be bold & predict that the fact Ford are now putting a greater effort into this and that it is re-joining the TOCA package will bring about an upswing in the championships fortunes. |
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24 Jan 2013, 20:45 (Ref:3193845) | #27 | ||
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The maximum number of starters for up to 2000cc single seaters ranges from 26 (Knockhill) to 38 (Brands GP/Snetterton 300). In theory, more entries could be accepted and either have reserves or non qualifiers (bearing in mind that circuit licences allow more cars to practice than race); however, I can't see that being popular.
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27 Jan 2013, 23:32 (Ref:3195069) | #31 | ||
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I would be surprised if that were to happen for it would be something of a backwards step (although it would be a shot in the arm for Formula Ford). Whilst a move to Ginettas or Porsches would perhaps be a step down/sideways move, it would at least put him on the sportscar map, where there may be a greater potential to forge a long term career.
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29 Jan 2013, 08:50 (Ref:3195618) | #32 | ||
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29 Jan 2013, 11:53 (Ref:3195689) | #34 | ||
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If I may add my two cents worth here. What makes motor racing great, is to watch is good close racing. where anyone in the top ten can win. F1 has won back viewers purely for this reason. I agree messing with formula regulations and re branding does little in this climate to bring this type of racing back. You need consistency on rules, tight policing and a formula where buy components are cheap. No wonder historic FF is making a huge come back. It is affordable, close racing, exciting and fun. What can we learn from it?
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I know I've criticised the BFF lot for many things but getting on the TOCA package with live free to air viewing is a great move. Providing they get grid numbers of 18 plus personally I think it might work. Less than that there'll be a problem. |
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29 Jan 2013, 17:09 (Ref:3195838) | #36 | |
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Hopefully not too "top" !
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29 Jan 2013, 22:26 (Ref:3195965) | #37 | |
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I wonder how much it costs to "Buy" a top name?
Sweeteners everywhere at the moment, how long will it last? |
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30 Jan 2013, 15:51 (Ref:3196219) | #38 | |
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Is there any information on who will run the Ray design. I know several are going for Sinter and obviously Mygale but nothing on Ray participants....
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30 Jan 2013, 17:18 (Ref:3196249) | #39 | ||
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Some confirmations:
Juan Angel Rosso to Jamun. Dan Cammish to JTR. The first story reveals Jamun are expected to run four cars, with Luke Williams returning in one. Entries announced so far: Jamun Racing/Mygale - Juan Angel Rosso Jamun Racing/Mygale - Luke Williams? Jamun Racing/Mygale? Jamun Racing/Mygale? JTR/Mygale - Dan Cammish JTR/Mygale - Camren Kaminsky JTR/Mygale Radical/Sinter - James Abbott SWB Motorsport/Sinter SWB Motorsport/Sinter |
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30 Jan 2013, 17:57 (Ref:3196264) | #40 | ||
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From what I know Ford have commited a budget to entice people to come into FF in 2013 and are offering a free entry if you sign in the first 15. I doubt they would wish to do this in the medium term but it is a significant saving. For what it is worth I think Ford are trying to do the right thing, I guess the easiest option would be to walk away from motorsport, it has a limited demographic and I doubt the old adage "win on a Sunday , Sell on a Monday" is relevant as most people have little interest in motorsport (outside of F1 which is regretfully dieing a slow but very public death, but is still supported by middle aged fans like me who cannot bring themselves to give up on it!!!! "rant over!"). I think Ford are helping to keep alive National Single Seater Motorsport by moving to the BTCC and should be given credit for keeping going with a multi chassis formula. Personally I think the BTCC needs a mix of Single Seaters and tin tops, there are I guess a few F2 Cars somewhere in Middle England that would make a great addition in 2014 , I think that would make for a very strong stand alone career path in the UK going forward. |
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30 Jan 2013, 20:35 (Ref:3196329) | #41 | |
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[QUOTE=Peter Cammish;3196264]Brakedisc
From what I know Ford have commited a budget to entice people to come into FF in 2013 and are offering a free entry if you sign in the first 15. I doubt they would wish to do this in the medium term but it is a significant saving. Ford have commited a budget for a few years now. Sadly it has not been spent wisely and we are on our 3rd "New" formula in 7 years. Might seem a good deal at the moment but what percentage of your budget is entry fees? 10%? At least they are giving it to the competitors rather than the teams/manufacturers. For what it is worth I think Ford are trying to do the right thing, I guess the easiest option would be to walk away from motorsport, it has a limited demographic and I doubt the old adage "win on a Sunday , Sell on a Monday" is relevant as most people have little interest in motorsport (outside of F1 which is regretfully dieing a slow but very public death, but is still supported by middle aged fans like me who cannot bring themselves to give up on it!!!! "rant over!"). Ford are losing ÂŁ5m a day in Europe and the first thing that will go is motorsport. I would suggest that their representatives are putting the effort in now so that they have a formula to run after Ford are gone. I would not be suprised if the plug has been pulled already. I think Ford are helping to keep alive National Single Seater Motorsport by moving to the BTCC and should be given credit for keeping going with a multi chassis formula. Should have been with the BTCC years ago but their representitives decided to go with someone else. Multi chassis formula? Certainly, Sinter, Specturn and Ray will join in if the money is right but I would suggest there will only be one chassis doing the winning and it is not any of them. Personally I think the BTCC needs a mix of Single Seaters and tin tops, there are I guess a few F2 Cars somewhere in Middle England that would make a great addition in 2014 , I think that would make for a very strong stand alone career path in the UK going forward. I agree but it is all about money. Gone are the days when a youngster could do it himself. If daddy does not have the money too bad. There is no staircase any more nor are there any manufactures left to give a good driver a chance. The MSA have let things go. There should be no FF this year based on last years numbers yet because it is Ford and it is seen as a big deal they get away with it. What Ford are investing would not buy a team so once again it is done on the cheap. [/QUOTE I look forward to the season, not for the racing sadly but to see who comes out on top in the battle of the Formulas. Will Ford with their last throw of the dice win or will JP and the BRDC pull it off. |
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30 Jan 2013, 21:48 (Ref:3196356) | #42 | ||
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"but I would suggest there will only be one chassis doing the winning and it is not any of them."
not sure about this bit! Whilst I clearly think Mygale build great cars, I do feel that the bodywork on the Ecoboost is particularly cumbersome (due to a lot of the initial design being dictated by Ford I believe) and it probably wouldn't be that difficult for a competitor to build a car that is a lot more slick and aerodynamic. |
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31 Jan 2013, 10:16 (Ref:3196503) | #43 | ||
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Certain areas of the bodywork were "fixed" by Ford. Roll hoop cover, side pod cover shape and minimum widths including a cockpit opening that even I could squeeze through make the cars what they are. Perhaps there is room for improvement and I am sure Gavin and Lyndsay will be in their wind tunnells as we type but with 35 pages of regulations to get right I am sure they will have enough on their hands. It is a numbers thing. The more cars you make and sell the more resources you can afford to spend on development. The Frenchman makes a good car and got off to a flier with the Ford order so should be ahead of the game. |
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31 Jan 2013, 13:38 (Ref:3196574) | #44 | ||
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If I were spending my money the first thing I would ask in any multi-chassis formula is "is there a dominant team/ chassis?"
If I couldn't get in there I'd go down to second best team, same chassis. After that you'd really need a very, very good deal if you think you're driver's in with a title shot, and even then you'd have to think about it if there are career aspirations at stake. |
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They claim 15 confirmed entries, but later say the five (5) names given are firm entries. Suggests a touch of been "economical with the truth" if I was been cynical :-)
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1 Feb 2013, 21:20 (Ref:3197653) | #47 | ||
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I have a feeling your browser's not showing the page properly or you've not scrolled down? Because they list 11 names as "firm championship registrants".
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1 Feb 2013, 21:27 (Ref:3197662) | #48 | ||
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Updated entry list:
CC Motorsport/Mygale - Cavan Corcoran Falcon Motorsport/Mygale - Harrison Scott Falcon Motorsport/Mygale - ? Falcon Motorsport/Mygale - ? Jamun Racing/Mygale - Juan Angel Rosso Jamun Racing/Mygale - Luke Williams Jamun Racing/Mygale? - ? Jamun Racing/Mygale? - ? JTR/Mygale - Dan Cammish JTR/Mygale - Camren Kaminsky JTR/Mygale - ? Radical/Sinter - James Abbott SWB Motorsport/Sinter - Jack Dex SWB Motorsport/Sinter - ? team unannounced - George Blundell team unannounced - Ross Gunn team unannounced - Fred Martin-Dye |
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1 Feb 2013, 22:09 (Ref:3197704) | #50 | ||
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Not sure about the quality of the overseas drivers but Dan Cammish must be considered a favourite for JTR to retain their British title this season............and yes I too would love to see the Ray marque return. Remember they came very close to winning this championship in 2010 with Scott Malvern & CDR. Actually I did see Scott & Gavin Ray chatting together on the Ford stand at The Autosport Show last month.....not trying to start any rumours or anything |
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