Please may I have a rant. - Page 2

JimW · 27 Jul 2005, 09:43 (Ref:1364475)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Like the occasion at one circuit that shall remain nameless (all this is 'allegedly' as it's only what I heard afterwards). The TV crew built their platform on top of the box that contained the extinguishers. The post was re-supplied with spares from the pitlane. Unfortunately they were from the pile of bottles to be refilled. Not much of the car made it back to the pits...

Warning, what follows is a rant and does not necessarily represent the opinions of Ten-Tenths.
(To be honest, it probably doesn't even represent the opinions of the poster when they aren't ranting.)

So who hadn't checked their kit at the beginning of the day then?

We now return you to our normal ramblings.

(Just had to try EP's advice.

)

Thanks for the reminder EP, I like the effect and will remember that.

Quote:

But just how essential is it if say the car just ran out of petrol?!?!

Once I have had written confirmation from a scrutineer that there is no petrol or petrol vapour in the car and that all and any batteries have indeed been removed, then I might think that it was not worth while turning off the master switch. But I'd probably still do it as it is just a sensible habit.

Regards

Jim

EvilPumpkin · 27 Jul 2005, 09:49 (Ref:1364479)

Well we did have one case in the Park a few years ago where there was much giving out over marshals who hadn't pulled the electrics on a specific car. The response was "well we thought the battery was pretty well isolated - you see that big thing in the middle of the road over there? The one the fire marshal nearly tripped over while attending the incident? Well that's the battery"

JimW · 27 Jul 2005, 10:28 (Ref:1364513)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilPumpkin

Well we did have one case in the Park a few years ago where there was much giving out over marshals who hadn't pulled the electrics on a specific car. The response was "well we thought the battery was pretty well isolated - you see that big thing in the middle of the road over there? The one the fire marshal nearly tripped over while attending the incident? Well that's the battery"

Giving out. There's a fine ethnic expression conveying such an exact picture.

Regards

Jim

**Woolley** · 27 Jul 2005, 12:43 (Ref:1364636)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimW

Warning, what follows is a rant and does not necessarily represent the opinions of Ten-Tenths.
(To be honest, it probably doesn't even represent the opinions of the poster when they aren't ranting.)

So who hadn't checked their kit at the beginning of the day then?

We now return you to our normal ramblings.

Couldn't comment. Happy to say I wasn't at the post (hence the 'alledged' disclaimer). IIRC the bottles arrived as the session was about to start (the post having been fine the previous day before that camera gantry was built), and of course it was the first session and that post at which the car decided to ignite. I expect Sod's law is in the yellow book somewhere.

numbersix · 27 Jul 2005, 16:58 (Ref:1364821)

I have a mantra I recite to the driver on those rare occasions when moi (fat git marshal carrying bottle) gets to an incident first.
"Turn off electrics"
"Put gear in neutral"
"Don't go wandering off"
It seems to work most times.
However if the incident is more than about 5 yards from where I'm picking my nose the first thing I see is "super-marshal", sans cape and bottle, flying past me at light-speed trying to impress the X-Observer. So I don't get much chance to discuss the relative merits of steering wheel paddle changing with the driver until I turn up with 20Kg of bottle under my armpit, by which time the medics have already removed the battery from said driver's rear orifice and my younger team-mates have rebuilt the tyre wall, swept the track and are having a quick buttie. Still, I plod on.

PenelopePitstop · 28 Jul 2005, 15:10 (Ref:1365679)

Number six, that is the most amussing thing I have read in a long time

CombeMarshal · 28 Jul 2005, 17:56 (Ref:1365780)

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Originally Posted by numbersix

"Turn off electrics"
"Put gear in neutral"
"Don't go wandering off"

I like that, what tune do you sing it too!!!!!!!!1

Lee

**Woolley** · 28 Jul 2005, 17:58 (Ref:1365782)

I'm only guessing, but it fits the Oompa-lumpa tune...

Grandslammer · 28 Jul 2005, 18:08 (Ref:1365797)

Kiki Dee/Elton John number springs to mind

CombeMarshal · 28 Jul 2005, 18:23 (Ref:1365816)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolley

I'm only guessing, but it fits the Oompa-lumpa tune...

DON'T!!!

I've only just got over the nightmares from when I was a child, and now there back for more!!
Lee

Clive · 28 Jul 2005, 19:39 (Ref:1365919)

Rockin all over the world. by the Quo??????????????

lewis360 · 30 Jul 2005, 20:47 (Ref:1367762)

at lydden today we da a car pulled off in the rain the driver got out but the electrics werent off because the wipers were still on

**Woolley** · 30 Jul 2005, 23:28 (Ref:1367839)

Send him back to do it properly.

One odd experience a few years ago. Single seater, possibly F3. We pulled the electrics and they were definitely off - the red light on the back went out. The electronic dash, however, didn't. We only noticed when we went back at the end of the session. The driver's answer was that he'd lose the data logging if it went off, so they'd wired around the cut-off...

rescue dude · 31 Jul 2005, 09:46 (Ref:1368071)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Send him back to do it properly.

One odd experience a few years ago. Single seater, possibly F3. We pulled the electrics and they were definitely off - the red light on the back went out. The electronic dash, however, didn't. We only noticed when we went back at the end of the session. The driver's answer was that he'd lose the data logging if it went off, so they'd wired around the cut-off...

This is sadly very true Wooley. Maybe though the driver/team ought to think about what they want back, the data or the whole car untouched by fire.

Hepatic · 31 Jul 2005, 10:18 (Ref:1368088)

Similar incident yesterday at Oulton. Car hit the wall hard at Deer Leap, driver got out and i asked if the electrics were off, to which i got a definate yes. Session was stopped, we went out to sort the car and i noticed the dash was still on. Asked the driver if the dash is always on went the electrics are killed, and he said "oh, sorry the switch is over there"...

...always ask the driver to turn them off, but never trust them to actually do so - always check yourself.

Dave Brand · 31 Jul 2005, 11:06 (Ref:1368123)

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Originally Posted by Hepatic

...always ask the driver to turn them off, but never trust them to actually do so - always check yourself.

Good advice!

I had a similar one yesterday.......

'Are the electrics off?'

'Yes.'

'No they aren't - the

lights are still on!'

.....that ended his little tantrum about my decision not to try to push his car out of the gravel trap!

ascarracinguk · 31 Jul 2005, 11:20 (Ref:1368133)

ive had similar experiences to this in my first year...worst one was last year at the gold cup...a 1970s f2 car...asked if it was off, he said yes and i heard a hissing,...fuel pump was still on, so went to shut it off and couldnt find the cut off, at the end of the session went again and it was burried inside the cockpit behind the shifter with no sign to say where it was....bloody good scrutineering eh!

Stuart Hill · 31 Jul 2005, 12:48 (Ref:1368187)

Same thing at Spa yesterday with the WTCC. One lap after the safety car had picked-up the pack a stranded car was seen (in the middle of the "Bus-Stop") with it's wipers still going and no-one in attendance!!

JimW · 31 Jul 2005, 21:50 (Ref:1368549)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolley

Send him back to do it properly.

. . . ...

Naah; do it yourself.

Regards

Jim

JimW · 17 May 2006, 19:45 (Ref:1612881)

And just to return to the point I was making. . .

See the Marcos about 1/3 of the way down this page being turned over with the headlight still on!

http://www.photography-on-the.net/fo...d.php?t=170331

Regards

Jim

Hepatic · 17 May 2006, 20:51 (Ref:1612964)

true, although not sure where the cutoff for that car is. I'm guessing the kill switch is on the bonnet under the windscreen, and maybe the driver had other things on his mind....

...some great pics in that thread tho, but what was Mark looking for?!!!

scribbler · 17 May 2006, 21:54 (Ref:1613024)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimW

And just to return to the point I was making. . .

See the Marcos about 1/3 of the way down this page being turned over with the headlight still on!

http://www.photography-on-the.net/fo...d.php?t=170331

Regards

Jim

Could be a trick of the light - the sun or flash reflected in the light unit. The car's equivalent of red-eye. But your point is taken.

mark_l · 17 May 2006, 22:07 (Ref:1613034)

I did have car pull up on post at Donington Park, the woman driver got out and climbed over the wall.

We went to shift it to a safer location and found the steering wheel had locked. When the driver saw us struggling with the car she called out "do you need this?" and held up the car key.

we had to fetch the key off from her and turn the ignition on before we could steer the car.

Needless to say we were unimpressed and asked the CofC to get the Chief Scrutineer to permantly disable the steering lock as required by the regulations.

rescue dude · 17 May 2006, 23:10 (Ref:1613071)

I think it was last year at Loton Park a chap went sideways into a tyre wall. The drivers side was against the tyres.
The Rescue unit were called and on arrival i despatched someone to get in the car with the driver via the passenger door.

The door was locked!!!!!

It hadn't happened as a result of the shunt he'd locked it in the paddock.
Luckily the driver was ok and opened the door and struggled out.

When we escorted the chap back to the paddock i showed him our "set of hydraulic keys"

He wont do that again.

**Woolley** · 17 May 2006, 23:18 (Ref:1613072)

And how often have we been out to a car in the gravel, only to find that the driver has thoughtfully applied the handbrake?

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