[WTCC] Oschersleben - Page 2

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 16:16 (Ref:1393081)

AZ, what a star.

**Craig** · 28 Aug 2005, 16:17 (Ref:1393083)

Wonderful! Wish I'd seen the race - does it get repeated?

snetmarshal · 28 Aug 2005, 16:19 (Ref:1393087)

the do-nut king is back! hopefully the first of many more

Hazard · 28 Aug 2005, 16:27 (Ref:1393092)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

Wonderful! Wish I'd seen the race - does it get repeated?

There's a sort of highlights deal on Thursday at 10:30

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1393108)

Race 1
1 1 Andy PRIAULX GBR BMW 320i 22:05.714 14 138.97 1:34.069
2 8 Rickard RYDELL SWE SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:08.952 14 3.238 138.63 1:34.222
3 42 Jorg MULLER GER BMW 320i 22:09.069 14 3.355 138.62 1:34.063
4 43 Dirk MULLER GER BMW 320i 22:09.354 14 3.640 138.59 1:34.069
5 10 Peter TERTING GER SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:10.522 14 4.808 138.47 1:34.107
6 29 Stephane ORTELLI MON SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:13.198 14 7.484 138.19 1:34.623
7 9 Jordi GENE ESP SEAT Leon 22:15.383 14 9.669 137.96 1:34.427
8 4 Alessandro ZANARDI ITA BMW 320i 22:17.081 14 11.367 137.79 1:34.073
9 7 Augusto FARFUS JR. BRA Alfa Romeo 156 22:17.625 14 11.911 137.73 1:34.248
10 14 Thomas KLENKE GER Ford Focus 22:17.979 14 12.265 137.70 1:34.372
11 23 Alain MENU SUI Chevrolet Lacetti 22:18.527 14 12.813 137.64 1:34.545
12 16 Michael FUNKE GER Ford Focus 22:19.513 14 13.799 137.54 1:34.598
13 2 Gabriele TARQUINI ITA Alfa Romeo 156 22:21.148 14 15.434 137.37 1:34.486
14 5 Antonio GARCIA ESP BMW 320i 22:23.057 14 17.343 137.18 1:34.512
15 27 I Adriano DE MICHELI ITA Honda Accord Euro R 22:23.854 14 18.140 137.09 1:34.504
16 32 I Marc HENNERICI GER BMW 320i 22:26.339 14 20.625 136.84 1:34.883
17 22 Nicola LARINI ITA Chevrolet Lacetti 22:28.669 14 22.955 136.60 1:34.910
18 19 I Valle MAKELA FIN SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:29.068 14 23.354 136.56 1:34.871
19 3 James THOMPSON GBR Alfa Romeo 156 22:30.148 14 24.434 136.46 1:34.524
20 30 I Stefano D'ASTE ITA BMW 320i 22:31.060 14 25.346 136.36 1:34.669
21 20 I Tom CORONEL NED SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:33.556 14 27.842 136.11 1:34.777
22 28 I Carl ROSENBLAD SWE BMW 320i 22:34.950 14 29.236 135.97 1:35.233
23 21 Robert HUFF GBR Chevrolet Lacetti 22:35.592 14 29.878 135.91 1:34.941
24 31 I Giuseppe CIRO ITA BMW 320i 22:48.712 14 42.998 134.60 1:36.095
25 36 I Sascha PLODERL AUT Ford Focus ST170 23:04.067 14 58.353 133.11 1:37.515
26 6 Fabrizio GIOVANARDI ITA Alfa Romeo 156 20:14.135 11 3 LAPS 119.12 1:34.926
Not Classified
25 Eric HELARY FRA Peugeot 407 14:35.642 9 D.N.F. 135.02 1:35.325

Fastest Lap
42 Jorg MULLER BMW 320i 1:34.063 11 87.20mph 140.34
27 I Adriano DE MICHELI Honda Accord Euro R 1:34.504 8 86.79mph 139.68

http://www.msttiming.com/result.asp?...nd=round08.gif

Race 2
1 4 Alessandro ZANARDI ITA BMW 320i 21:59.901 14 139.58 1:33.689
2 1 Andy PRIAULX GBR BMW 320i 22:00.133 14 0.232 139.56 1:33.475
3 42 Jorg MULLER GER BMW 320i 22:00.425 14 0.524 139.53 1:33.480
4 9 Jordi GENE ESP SEAT Leon 22:01.428 14 1.527 139.42 1:33.827
5 7 Augusto FARFUS JR. BRA Alfa Romeo 156 22:02.191 14 2.290 139.34 1:33.590
6 43 Dirk MULLER GER BMW 320i 22:08.373 14 8.472 138.69 1:34.012
7 8 Rickard RYDELL SWE SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:10.799 14 10.898 138.44 1:34.470
8 23 Alain MENU SUI Chevrolet Lacetti 22:10.923 14 11.022 138.43 1:33.929
9 5 Antonio GARCIA ESP BMW 320i 22:11.298 14 11.397 138.39 1:33.881
10 16 Michael FUNKE GER Ford Focus 22:11.689 14 11.788 138.35 1:33.737
11 22 Nicola LARINI ITA Chevrolet Lacetti 22:12.879 14 12.978 138.22 1:34.159
12 21 Robert HUFF GBR Chevrolet Lacetti 22:16.916 14 17.015 137.81 1:34.156
13 20 I Tom CORONEL NED SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:17.935 14 18.034 137.70 1:34.194
14 2 Gabriele TARQUINI ITA Alfa Romeo 156 22:18.577 14 18.676 137.63 1:33.250
15 29 Stephane ORTELLI MON SEAT Toledo Cupra 22:21.491 14 21.590 137.34 1:34.014
16 31 I Giuseppe CIRO ITA BMW 320i 22:23.223 14 23.322 137.16 1:34.102
17 28 I Carl ROSENBLAD SWE BMW 320i 22:27.978 14 28.077 136.67 1:34.562
18 27 I Adriano DE MICHELI ITA Honda Accord Euro R 22:52.396 14 52.495 134.24 1:34.538
19 30 I Stefano D'ASTE ITA BMW 320i 22:53.582 14 53.681 134.13 1:36.098
20 14 Thomas KLENKE GER Ford Focus 22:02.628 13 1 LAP 129.31 1:33.705
21 32 I Marc HENNERICI GER BMW 320i 23:03.898 13 1 LAP 123.59 1:35.361
22 36 I Sascha PLODERL AUT Ford Focus ST170 17:56.974 11 3 LAPS 134.30 1:36.495
Not Classified
3 James THOMPSON GBR Alfa Romeo 156 4:49.917 3 D.N.F. 134.61 1:33.698
19 I Valle MAKELA FIN SEAT Toledo Cupra 4:00.565 2 D.N.F. 107.35 1:46.847
6 Fabrizio GIOVANARDI ITA Alfa Romeo 156 1:44.647 1 D.N.F. 120.64 1:44.647
10 Peter TERTING GER SEAT Toledo Cupra 2:25.081 1 D.N.F. 87.02

Fastest Lap
2 Gabriele TARQUINI Alfa Romeo 156 1:33.250 2 87.96mph 141.56
31 I Giuseppe CIRO BMW 320i 1:34.102 6 87.17mph 140.28

http://www.msttiming.com/result.asp?...nd=round08.gif

IMO Both races were great, and of course the victory for Zanardi was beautiful and well deserved!

It was nice to see the people of other teams waving at him when he drove to his pits.

The performance of the new Leon is also promissing for next races and season. The Alfa Romeo's were very disapointing this race.

According Mario Theissen WTCC is in talks with 1 or 2 extra manufacturers (Toyota (or Lexus), Mazda?) for next season.

**Adam43** · 28 Aug 2005, 18:06 (Ref:1393128)

Doughnut boy?
http://www.fiawtcc.com/2k5/gallery/p...W=750&maxH=550

JMeissner · 28 Aug 2005, 18:14 (Ref:1393132)

Great to see Zanardi win!

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1393148)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

According Mario Theissen WTCC is in talks with 1 or 2 extra manufacturers (Toyota (or Lexus), Mazda?) for next season.

Oh yes, Toyota has been "talking about" all sorts of championships since Gp.C died

- I'll believe it when I see the first Toyota on the grid. As for Mazda, we already have Ford in the series, that's the same group.

Was this really the first win for BMW Italy-Spain??

19dodge · 28 Aug 2005, 18:34 (Ref:1393150)

Congrats to Alex. He will always be my hero.

Dani Filth · 28 Aug 2005, 19:23 (Ref:1393172)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Oh yes, Toyota has been "talking about" all sorts of championships since Gp.C died

- I'll believe it when I see the first Toyota on the grid. As for Mazda, we already have Ford in the series, that's the same group.

Was this really the first win for BMW Italy-Spain??

first win this year .. i think Giovanardi won for them in 2003

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 19:36 (Ref:1393178)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

first win this year .. i think Giovanardi won for them in 2003

Weird - maybe the Eurosport guys were overcome with emotion there... - I believe they said it was the first win ever. Ah but who cares, viva Alex!

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 19:37 (Ref:1393179)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Oh yes, Toyota has been "talking about" all sorts of championships since Gp.C died

- I'll believe it when I see the first Toyota on the grid. As for Mazda, we already have Ford in the series, that's the same group.

Agree, first see, then believe. Sometimes dreaming is nice.

You are saying Ford is in the series, but before this weekend their participation was a joke. This weekend on their home circuit they did very well. But I am afraid they are at the back of the grid again next race.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Was this really the first win for BMW Italy-Spain??

Don't know.

During the DTM race at German TV Klaus Ludwig was very negative about WTCC and Chevrolet.

At the DTM race at Nurburgring a journalist asked Norbert Haug if they are interested in the WTCC. Haug said: "We are only doing autosport with real race cars".

Today WTCC was for the first time live broadcasted on German TV channel ZDF. After the 1st race the commentator said there were 3 German drivers in top 5, something not every championship could say. It was clear he meant DTM.

I got the feeling this was the start of a DTM/German channel ARD vs WTCC/German channel ZDF war.

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 19:45 (Ref:1393187)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

At the DTM race at Nurburgring a journalist asked Norbert Haug if they are interested in the WTCC. Haug said: "We are only doing autosport with real race cars".

Mercedes-Benz has been out of racing for several years, ever since Haug became motor"sports" chief to be exact. I would llike to see Merc lose a few races in WTCC (and a Norbert vs. Monica spitting match on pitlane!

) but that's another story...

Quote:

I got the feeling this was the start of a DTM/German channel ARD vs WTCC/German channel ZDF war.

Good. The German public should get used to the thought of life after DTM.

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 19:52 (Ref:1393196)

I got the impression there were a lott of people in Oschersleben. It surprised me I thought in Germany there was only Schumacher, F1, DTM and 24h of The Ring.

Dani Filth · 28 Aug 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1393198)

well . a lot of germans in WTCC and FIA GT . + BMW . + works Ford team being german . a lot of it is German . so it should be expected .. and me to be German . i wouldnt mind having WTCC live

not at all

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 19:58 (Ref:1393199)

BTW were was Colciago this weekend?

Dani Filth · 28 Aug 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1393204)

i was wondering the same thing .. maybe he's racing somewhere else .

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1393206)

Italian touring car championship? Summer holliday?

E46 · 28 Aug 2005, 20:18 (Ref:1393214)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Was this really the first win for BMW Italy-Spain??

Yes, it´s the first win for Ravaglia motorsport in ETCC/WTCC with S2000 specs. They won races in ETCC 2001 with Peter Kox and Super production cars anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

BTW were was Colciago this weekend?

Colciago hasn´t money for all season.

Dani Filth · 28 Aug 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1393216)

back on topic ..
what a disaster race for Alfa

Ford Focus looked quite fast today .. far better than before .
but three beemers in the first three .. 1 with 60kilos .. hmmm

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1393217)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

I got the impression there were a lott of people in Oschersleben.

Rest assured that the FIA GT marketing people had nothing to do with that!! I believe some manufacturers gave out tickets to their employees, Chevy among them. But hey, as long as it gets bums on seats it can't be a bad thing.

This may not be quite a fair assessment but it seems to me the East German race fans are still more open to "non-F1" racing than the West Germans. For instance, motorcycle racing still has a good fan base in the East.

(And the Ring 24 isn't quite as popular with the mainstream fans as the attendance figures make it look, many just come there for the partying.)

Alex Hodgkinson · 28 Aug 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1393218)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19dodge

Congrats to Alex. He will always be my hero.

I couldn't of put it better.

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1393219)

Quote:

Originally Posted by E46

Colciago hasn´t money for all season.

That's not good news....

He deserves a full factory drive.

Dani Filth · 28 Aug 2005, 20:22 (Ref:1393224)

he was a "factory" driver. even without being one ..

cybersdorf · 28 Aug 2005, 20:24 (Ref:1393227)

Quote:

Originally Posted by E46

Yes, it´s the first win for Ravaglia motorsport in ETCC/WTCC with S2000 specs. They won races in ETCC 2001 with Peter Kox and Super production cars anyway.

thanks!

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