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22 Dec 2016, 00:12 (Ref:3697741) | #5026 | |
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He must have help from TMG or be using their facilities at least some of the time. They're too good not to take advantage of.
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27 Dec 2016, 21:23 (Ref:3698720) | #5029 | |
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Motorsport.com has an interesting article on Toyota's 'risky targets' next year. Again, too, no decision on the third car but they seem keen on running it to support the series.
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28 Dec 2016, 09:18 (Ref:3698781) | #5030 | |
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Hello everyone. I am new, a Le Mans, WEC and racing fan so I eventually got here.
I just wanted to post a link to that above mentioned article about "risky targets" of Toyota.\ I don't like this, I mean risky targets for me are either big changes in car, many new elements i.e. lack of reliability again. They (Vasselon) mentioned big goal of improvement in speed. My feeling about is quick car x2 = failure in Le Mans which as we know is just third race of season. Quick car x3 is 0 or at most 1 car finishing first for me. Remember Peugeot in 2010? Four very fast cars, none of them finished. And given the bad luck of Toyota... Maybe they will have a chance in chapionship at least... Further, I think they are talking a little too much also. |
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29 Dec 2016, 00:56 (Ref:3698903) | #5031 | |
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Toyota don't talk much at all. In fact, here you can find that they're probably the least forthcoming of the lmp1 teams. I don't know what the risky part is in their plans, but this past season was pretty good for their new car aside the new engine reliability.
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I know Roderick said no 3rd car, but this is from Sportscar 365:
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7 Jan 2017, 00:32 (Ref:3700712) | #5033 | |
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Yea....The thing is, I know how many cars are going to run but at this point, I've said both sides of story one after the other so I think it's best to wait till the announcement.
PS: 3rd Third driver is still unknown... |
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7 Jan 2017, 02:44 (Ref:3700721) | #5034 | |
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Duval probably won't be able to do it if he is prioritizing dtm. So if there is a 3rd car, Hirakawa and Sarrazin with an unknown driver?
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ohh very nice rim. It is a bit different than the old ones.
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14 Jan 2017, 23:29 (Ref:3702633) | #5038 | |
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Can't tell any difference from last year aside from the additional holes near the lip.
Edit, they were there last year also- Last edited by TF110; 14 Jan 2017 at 23:41. |
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Yeah, they look the same. I don't know why I remembered the rims different and darker
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15 Jan 2017, 03:59 (Ref:3702671) | #5040 | |
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If Toyota brings three slow cars, they leave the race in Porsche's hands ... if Porsche doesn't break, they win. If Toyota brings three cars, two fast and one slow, They can try to play both ends---win on speed by either beating Porsche or pushing Porsche to failure, or win on reliability if the Toyotas break while pushing the Porsches to break.
At this point, I think Toyota would be foolish not to go for the win at Le Mans and also for the championship. They have won and lost the title, have finished everywhere but where it matters at Le Mans. There is nothing more for Toyota to lose---after the heartbreak at Le Mans last year, what could possibly hurt worse? Also, Toyota was soundly spanked in the championship chase last season. Again, what have they to lose? To characterize their goals as "risky" is arbitrary. They could equally be called "ambitious." In any case, the idea seems to be that Toyota is tied of being the loser, the also-ran, the "other" team. Toyota has decided that it understands its engine and hybrid system, and has seen what the competition can do, and feels like the car can run at least equal to what they expect Porsche to achieve. Coming from a company which has been as conservative as Toyota ... All they are really claiming is that they expect to be competitive next season. |
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22 Jan 2017, 06:40 (Ref:3704179) | #5043 | |
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According to Autosport magazine in Japan, Toyota "redesigned" the engine as well as the hybrid system.
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24 Jan 2017, 00:24 (Ref:3704614) | #5046 | ||
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I cant help but to think that with the recent podium for TGR WRC team will cause the management to evaluate and compare between TMG and the Finnish operations.
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24 Jan 2017, 03:35 (Ref:3704645) | #5047 | |
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But the engine in that Yaris is from TMG, so they deserve credit too It was a good result, but it was a fortunate one with the cars in front crashing. It takes different types of management for endurance and rally I would imagine.
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24 Jan 2017, 07:56 (Ref:3704685) | #5048 | |
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I think Yaris WRC has been developed by TMG, and assembled and maintained in Finland.
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24 Jan 2017, 09:45 (Ref:3704701) | #5049 | |
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Rumors say that the 2017 car will be much much better in both powertrain/Hybrid and Aero.
Of course the question is what Porsche will achieve, but Toyota looks promising. |
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