WEC New Perrin LMP1 ! - Page 3

pablocomics · 24 May 2013, 17:39 (Ref:3252738)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

I thought the same after writting my line

Mechanic Z · 25 May 2013, 04:32 (Ref:3252918)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

Where is that car now?

Breitling24 · 25 May 2013, 05:26 (Ref:3252926)

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Originally Posted by Mechanic Z

Where is that car now?

Porsche museum, Stuttgart. My photo of it, last summer:

Pandamasque · 23 May 2013, 23:11 (Ref:3252447)

To me this looks similar to the recent Riley attempt to produce their LMPs, expect Riley had better credentials, and still nobody took a chance.

FstrthnU · 23 May 2013, 23:17 (Ref:3252450)

Personally I think the extended engine cover makes the fin less obtrusive from the design (looks more like the fin is intended to be there). However, I'm withholding judgment on the design until I see a real livery on this thing.

Pandamasque · 24 May 2013, 09:55 (Ref:3252575)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

Personally I think the extended engine cover makes the fin less obtrusive from the design (looks more like the fin is intended to be there). However, I'm withholding judgment on the design until I see a real livery on this thing.

Agreed, althoough the engine cover itself kinda makes it look awkward. That area reminds me of Kremer Porsche 962 K8 with its dorsal fin.

nobster · 24 May 2013, 10:49 (Ref:3252586)

Good to see a car almost ready for next year, If they would stand a small chance against the factory teams, probably not.

The Badger · 24 May 2013, 20:55 (Ref:3252817)

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Originally Posted by nobster

Good to see a car almost ready for next year

Oh , like the P2 Snobeck displayed at Le Mans a few years ago ..... and the Bailey . Nothing happened racewise anyway .

isynge · 24 May 2013, 22:23 (Ref:3252849)

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Oh , like the P2 Snobeck displayed at Le Mans a few years ago ..... and the Bailey . Nothing happened racewise anyway .

True - this is a lot less ready than either of those two...

That said, for something to reach the grid there probably has to be an array of efforts that don't make it - efforts that teach people what not to do, that give engineers experience in figuring what to do, that give suppliers a stream of work that keep them going.

In that light it's great to see the Perrin, even it all it does directly is to feature in the list of sportscars that never raced; and if it does more, gets to the stage of say the Bailey, or even rolls around like the Protran of 2006, or Lavaggi of 2007, or Euzkadi of 2008 then if I'm lucky enough to see it I'll cheer and smile in just the same way I cheered for those cars.

Beetle · 24 May 2013, 21:13 (Ref:3252831)

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Originally Posted by nobster

Good to see a car almost ready for next year, If they would stand a small chance against the factory teams, probably not.

Almost ready for next year...

The Badger · 25 May 2013, 00:28 (Ref:3252864)

That Euskadi was a nice lookin car ..... shame they didn't have enough to see that chassis work .

TF110 · 25 May 2013, 08:21 (Ref:3252964)

I like coupes. In my eyes the Audi looks nothing like the Toyota, nor the 908, nor the Lola. Its just a closed cockpit but you clearly see the differences. Next year I bet they will be even more different, and hopefully someone uses this perrinn.

Beetle · 25 May 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3253085)

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Originally Posted by TF110

I like coupes. In my eyes the Audi looks nothing like the Toyota, nor the 908, nor the Lola. Its just a closed cockpit but you clearly see the differences. Next year I bet they will be even more different, and hopefully someone uses this perrinn.

Yeah, that's true. Someone could always pick up the design and run with it (which the permission of the designers, of course!). That almost happened with the Peugeot 908 Hybrid 4 if I'm not mistaken?

CTD · 25 May 2013, 19:03 (Ref:3253123)

I like the coupes look more than the Spyders.
But in these times, I'll take any Prototype there can be raced!

wolfhound · 26 May 2013, 08:19 (Ref:3253292)

I wonder will Porsche make customer cars available of their new prototype?
They usually do after a year or so.
If I were looking at P1 that is the route that would most likely offer the strongest package but probably cost more.

Simmi · 26 May 2013, 08:32 (Ref:3253300)

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If I were looking at P1 that is the route that would most likely offer the strongest package but probably cost more.

Waiting on a Porsche would be a big gamble to take. If I was a betting man I'd say a customer car isn't coming. Plus as you say you'd be waiting for a long time. If someone wants to come into the series in the big class relatively cheaply and learn the ropes the Perrin might be a good bet.

Cost would likely be the reason you took this over an OAK/Dome/HPD but there's sometimes value in running something different to the rest.

Spyderman · 28 May 2013, 09:19 (Ref:3254403)

From a press release from Porsche back in 2009.http://www.rahulnair.net/blog/2009/0...-zuffenhausen/

Beetle · 28 May 2013, 20:42 (Ref:3254705)

Shall we title this thread "The Greatness of The Pig"?

Mr Pink · 28 May 2013, 21:00 (Ref:3254716)

well it certainly isn't about the perrinn anymore..

dxk1 · 29 May 2013, 01:41 (Ref:3254794)

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well it certainly isn't about the perrinn anymore..

Maybe they should change the name to Peccary LMP1

then this thread would be right on!

DK

gustavobamba · 12 Jun 2013, 08:38 (Ref:3261331)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-18784.html

F1 engines in Endurance?!?!?!?

TRuss · 15 Jun 2013, 01:26 (Ref:3262883)

This has nothing to do with the Perrinn specifically but F1 engines in LMP1 is an idea that has been kicking around for a little while now by several motorsports journalist. Yet many of the "experts" on here continue to dismiss the idea. I don't think you'll see one in a Perrinn unless it's factory backed and supported. The engines would be far too expensive and complex for privateers.

ss_collins · 15 Jun 2013, 12:04 (Ref:3263004)

The 2014 F1 power units are fully legal in LMP1, this was a deliberate move by the ACO/FIA. However does that mean anyone will use one? Probably not as they are very expensive.

Victor_RO · 15 Jun 2013, 12:05 (Ref:3263005)

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Originally Posted by ss_collins

The 2014 F1 power units are fully legal in LMP1, this was a deliberate move by the ACO/FIA. However does that mean anyone will use one? Probably not as they are very expensive.

Wasn't the mooted cost of a F1 engine deal at about 15-17 million Euro per season? That would be completely prohibitive to anyone but a factory team to actually run a F1 engine.

pablocomics · 16 Jun 2013, 10:11 (Ref:3263352)

IMO it will be a F1 derivated engine not a f1 engine, with much cheaper components. The materials could be much cheaper, for example, the resistance engines doesn't need ultraexpensive pneumathic valves or something like a ultracompact f1 gearbox.

It will be expensive but not that expensive.

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