Pukekohe 500-27/28 October 2012 - Page 4

FAS33 · 17 Sep 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3137423)

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Originally Posted by adbutler

FFS. People like these really **** me off. Why live next to a race track if your poor sensitive ears can't handle the noise. 99.99% of the time the track was there before they were.

If you don't like the noise...how bout moving away? hopefully common sense in the council will overcome these sooks who are prob the same old people that complain about everyday living

Goat Boy · 17 Sep 2012, 20:25 (Ref:3137442)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

If you don't like the noise...how bout moving away? hopefully common sense in the council will overcome these sooks who are prob the same old people that complain about everyday living

Ha! Council? Common sense? Maybe councils have that in Australia, but it is a prerequisite for working for any council in NZ that you leave all your common sense at the door as you enter the building....

flyingduck · 17 Sep 2012, 20:35 (Ref:3137447)

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Originally Posted by Biggy G

Thought this might have been posted already, arrived in my inbox this week, the 500 event format:

Saturday:

12:35 20 mins V8 SuperTourers Qualifying *

13:10 35 mins V8 SuperTourers Top 10 Shoot Out *

15.45 1 Hour 15 V8 SuperTourers Race One * 56 Laps (TBC)

Sunday:

9:20 20 mins V8 SuperTourers Qualifying *

9:50 35 mins V8 SuperTourers Top 10 Shoot Out *

12:05 1 Hour 20 V8 SuperTourers Race Two * 56 Laps (TBC)

14:35 1 Hour 30 V8 SuperTourers Race Three * 65 Laps (TBC)

* Note: Entrants will select which Driver qualifies. The Cars Entrant must nominate which Driver starts the Races 30 minutes after qualifying.

So for those close to the action a few questions

How many laps in each stint will the co driver need to do. I just don't know how this works in a timed race situation eg if race only goes 45 laps due to a red flag or wet race with multiple yellows each driver may not be able to do a min.

For the Sunday races is it like Taupo whoever starts the first race must finish the second or is that drivers choice.

What are the rules around the top 10 shootout and weather.

Have you looked at a light system to show the public and teams who is in each car.

Can't wait for the race and Mr Petch I was interested to hear you talk about the last 500km race being the b&h which your team won wasn't the Last the LK 500 came after the b&h. My memory is a little hazy on this one but was the B&H 500 actually 500 miles.

It will be sad to see the last run of the track in current specification if they put the chicane into the hill area nothing like watching cars on edge as they go over the top.

nistfan · 17 Sep 2012, 22:00 (Ref:3137488)

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Originally Posted by flyingduck

So for those close to the action a few questions

How many laps in each stint will the co driver need to do. I just don't know how this works in a timed race situation eg if race only goes 45 laps due to a red flag or wet race with multiple yellows each driver may not be able to do a min.

For the Sunday races is it like Taupo whoever starts the first race must finish the second or is that drivers choice.

What are the rules around the top 10 shootout and weather.

Have you looked at a light system to show the public and teams who is in each car.

Can't wait for the race and Mr Petch I was interested to hear you talk about the last 500km race being the b&h which your team won wasn't the Last the LK 500 came after the b&h. My memory is a little hazy on this one but was the B&H 500 actually 500 miles.

It will be sad to see the last run of the track in current specification if they put the chicane into the hill area nothing like watching cars on edge as they go over the top.

Not sure on the distance of those LK Races. The late 80s and early 90s Nissan Mobil Races were 500kms as well. The last B & H as such was 1987 on the long Circuit. I think Petchs car won that but it was 25 Years ago

Goat Boy · 17 Sep 2012, 22:18 (Ref:3137499)

We haven't used miles here since 1976...

Southern Man · 17 Sep 2012, 22:56 (Ref:3137511)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

We haven't used miles here since 1976...

At which time if I recall correctly, the B & H race length was incresed from 500 miles to 1000 km.

Goat Boy · 17 Sep 2012, 23:46 (Ref:3137525)

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

At which time if I recall correctly, the B & H race length was incresed from 500 miles to 1000 km.

Which is quite a lot further! What did the Bathurst 1000 used to be called, anyone know?

FAS33 · 18 Sep 2012, 08:04 (Ref:3137646)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Which is quite a lot further! What did the Bathurst 1000 used to be called, anyone know?

the Great Race

Mr Revhead · 18 Sep 2012, 08:10 (Ref:3137648)

Wasn't it the Hardy Ferodo 500?

Goat Boy · 18 Sep 2012, 08:21 (Ref:3137653)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Wasn't it the Hardy Ferodo 500?

I think you mean Hardie, but otherwise yes that rings a bell. Was it fewer laps then? Or is that number just a bit of a random one and not an exact distance?

Mr Revhead · 18 Sep 2012, 08:23 (Ref:3137654)

Phone spell check!
First one was at Phillip island.
I think its always been as many laps as you need to get over 500/1000

Goat Boy · 18 Sep 2012, 08:31 (Ref:3137657)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Phone spell check!
First one was at Phillip island.
I think its always been as many laps as you need to get over 500/1000

James Hardie, named after the building product man whose asbestos products wreaked havoc with our dads' lungs... not surprising your phone didn't have that in it!

So the current 161 laps hasn't always been?

Antrodemus · 18 Sep 2012, 08:35 (Ref:3137659)

It was 163 laps before they put the Chase in for 1987

iirc the 500-miler was over 130 laps.

sizzle · 18 Sep 2012, 10:50 (Ref:3137738)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

James Hardie, named after the building product man whose asbestos products wreaked havoc with our dads' lungs... not surprising your phone didn't have that in it!

So the current 161 laps hasn't always been?

That was always 1000. It was the Gallagher 500, and also the Hardie Ferodo 500, my ancient mind does not let me recall any others for the 500.

**Woolley** · 18 Sep 2012, 12:48 (Ref:3137800)

[off topic]When ChampCar came to Rockingham UK they ran a 500km race on a 1½ mile oval. Weird[/off topic]

BackSeat Driver · 18 Sep 2012, 20:56 (Ref:3138086)

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Originally Posted by onza

Pretty sure you need to adjust timing to gain an advantage from octane boost...
I believe this not able to be done without breaking into the ECU somehow.

Looks like you are correct on this one and the rumour mill was wrong. I have been told by MP that:

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As for fuel additives, we run the engines with so little spark, 26 degrees, that you would get zero gain from boosting the octane rating. We also collect all the data of every car so we know the rate of acceleration via the our inbuilt 20 Htz, GPS which logs at 20 times a second and when we over lay all the top 10 cars, they are virtually identical. The difference between the fastest cars is their mid corner speed which is all about the set up, get that wrong and you will be slower down the shoot.
.

Good to hear it straight from the horses mouth.

Axeman444 · 18 Sep 2012, 23:22 (Ref:3138159)

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Originally Posted by sizzle

That was always 1000. It was the Gallagher 500, and also the Hardie Ferodo 500, my ancient mind does not let me recall any others for the 500.

Also the Armstrong 500 at PI

M3 Racing · 21 Sep 2012, 00:59 (Ref:3139386)

Re the shocks, my source said that the #51 car ran with the "grey" set-up for both races and had documentation prepared for after the second race on stand-by. (Cant comment about the other car/cars).[/QUOTE]

I usually just watch with interest but I can't let this one slide.
We got technical clearance before the round to run in the "grey area" that you speak of but a technical bulletin was released on Saturday afternoon after practise cleaning up the rule. We returned the suspension to "black and white" before qualifying and ran like that all Sunday as well.

The octane booster? That's the first I've heard of that rumour. Our ECU's are locked and have a VERY safe tune in them. There would be no advantage to running a higher octane value if the engine isn't knocking in the first place.

Kerry Holland.
M3 Racing.

Goat Boy · 23 Sep 2012, 20:10 (Ref:3140509)

Just been checking out ticke prices - if you're only headed out for the Sunday and don't want to sit in the grandstand (I am assuming it's the spaggy old one) then it's $35, plus you can buy parking online for $5 - kids under 12 free.

I reckon that's pretty good actually, that's when we will head out for sure. I think it's $65 for a weekend pass but as with most events like this I'd be struggling to be there for both days really. It will be the same for the V8SC, we will only go on Sunday, and hopefully we can take a train down!

Evomike · 23 Sep 2012, 20:50 (Ref:3140519)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Just been checking out ticke prices - if you're only headed out for the Sunday and don't want to sit in the grandstand (I am assuming it's the spaggy old one) then it's $35, plus you can buy parking online for $5 - kids under 12 free.

I reckon that's pretty good actually, that's when we will head out for sure. I think it's $65 for a weekend pass but as with most events like this I'd be struggling to be there for both days really. It will be the same for the V8SC, we will only go on Sunday, and hopefully we can take a train down!

I'm sure I noticed new plastic seats in the grandstand when I was there on Saturday

Evomike · 23 Sep 2012, 20:52 (Ref:3140521)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

spaggy

bahahaha haven't heard that word since primary school

Goat Boy · 24 Sep 2012, 04:02 (Ref:3140650)

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Originally Posted by Evomike

bahahaha haven't heard that word since primary school

Skodie is the other word I might have used...

JamesK · 24 Sep 2012, 05:48 (Ref:3140675)

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Originally Posted by M3 Racing

I usually just watch with interest but I can't let this one slide.
We got technical clearance before the round to run in the "grey area" that you speak of but a technical bulletin was released on Saturday afternoon after practise cleaning up the rule. We returned the suspension to "black and white" before qualifying and ran like that all Sunday as
Kerry Holland.
M3 Racing.

Arn't the dampers a control component in this class ?
What made the team think replacing / modifying a component on the damper was legal ?

Mr Revhead · 24 Sep 2012, 05:51 (Ref:3140676)

Unless is specifically says you can't, why can't you? As pointed out the rules were not clear, then they were. A loophole was found, then closed.
Hence no penalty.
Welcome to motorsport!

JamesK · 24 Sep 2012, 06:12 (Ref:3140683)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Unless is specifically says you can't, why can't you? As pointed out the rules were not clear, then they were. A loophole was found, then closed.
Hence no penalty.
Welcome to motorsport!

Control Component means a part or component (including a part or component thereof) of the Car which is either supplied by V8ST or the use of which is approved by V8ST
Compliance with the regulations
All modifications or additions to the Car or any Control Component which are not allowed by these Technical Regulations and subsequent Technical Bulletins are forbidden.

Email sent to all teams prior to Taupo...
….AND THAT ANY TEAM FOUND TO HAVE TAMPERED WITH A DAMPER/DAMPER WILL FACE EXCLUSION FROM THE MEETING AND ANY OTHER PENALTY THE IPO DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

Rules not clear ???

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