dmn 2010 - Page 5

pugracer2 · 15 Nov 2009, 19:44 (Ref:2582419)

For my part, as I will be joining you next year, I'm just glad there's still the 8v to 16v splits in classes to allow me to perhaps be competitive.

aland · 16 Nov 2009, 20:23 (Ref:2583092)

dont suppose there is any plans for you guys to venture to scotland, would love to see stuff like Mr Birley's escort, that skyline and others at Knockhill

graham bahr · 16 Nov 2009, 20:30 (Ref:2583099)

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Originally Posted by aland

dont suppose there is any plans for you guys to venture to scotland, would love to see stuff like Mr Birley's escort, that skyline and others at Knockhill

your quite right, there are no plans to go to scotland!

ironically though we have cars come down from scotland to race with us

Robert Morris · 16 Nov 2009, 20:56 (Ref:2583119)

trouble is there are people that think you need a passport to go further north than watford gap

grichie87 · 16 Nov 2009, 22:30 (Ref:2583180)

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Originally Posted by pdd144c

What about this rule then?

5.7.10 The capacity of an engine should not exceed the capacity for the class however, when calculating/checking engine capacity for eligibility purposes to allow for measuring errors and bore wear an engine shall be regarded as legal provided the engine does not exceed the capacity limit for its class by 1%

So does this mean that Woody was in the wrong class all year? This implies that 2020cc is actually the class limit, surely meaning that 2013 cc was perfectly acceptable in Class C… So Class D for 2010, no need to buy those darts

Where did this rule come from??? I dont remember seeing this before. Graham Barr is the Drivers Rep, what is the procedure if one driver has a problem with another over driving standards or whatever??

bdwoody · 16 Nov 2009, 22:49 (Ref:2583198)

its been there for two years graham , you realy should read the rules, now go directly to the naughty corner. ;-)

graham bahr · 16 Nov 2009, 23:06 (Ref:2583206)

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what is the procedure if one driver has a problem with another over driving standards or whatever??

idealy talk to the COC at the meeting immediatly after the "issue"

if you do not then although you can talk to barcs committee, they are limited in what they can do other than talk to the driver concerned, unless we consider the driver to be bringing barc or motorsport into disrepute

graham bahr · 16 Nov 2009, 23:08 (Ref:2583208)

going totally off topic i saw a light blue van in cambridge today it said BD marine on the side, didnt get time to do an eligability check on it though

bdwoody · 16 Nov 2009, 23:09 (Ref:2583210)

he he yeah there was one in harlow last friday too ........

its a 1.8 turbo .........diesel by the by ...lol

grichie87 · 16 Nov 2009, 23:56 (Ref:2583244)

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Originally Posted by bdwoody

its been there for two years graham , you realy should read the rules, now go directly to the naughty corner. ;-)

D'oh

aland · 17 Nov 2009, 10:34 (Ref:2583425)

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Originally Posted by graham bahr

your quite right, there are no plans to go to scotland!

ironically though we have cars come down from scotland to race with us

graham wait and brian o'connor in the sierra cosworths?? both top men

ach well will have to travel south to see you lot then

on your bill it is pickups, national legends and what else?

chezza · 17 Nov 2009, 19:02 (Ref:2583665)

We're only usually with the Trucks, Pick Ups and Legends at the beginning and end of the season at Brands. Where we buy our grids from other clubs we could be on with anything!

Chris Isaacs · 17 Nov 2009, 19:50 (Ref:2583693)

Graham, are the technical rules changing much, or is it 'just' the class structures? Do you have an idea of when the 2010 tech rules will be available? Thanks.

graham bahr · 17 Nov 2009, 21:34 (Ref:2583766)

changes are mostly capacity splits chris, there are no major techical changes

Chris Isaacs · 18 Nov 2009, 19:55 (Ref:2584447)

OK, thanks, I'll carry on then!

Copperbottom · 18 Nov 2009, 20:07 (Ref:2584462)

Main ones are msa requirements, alternator and headlights iirc.

Chris Isaacs · 18 Nov 2009, 20:13 (Ref:2584467)

Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I remember reading about in, I think, Brief Torque. If that is the general level of changes I don't need to lose any sleep!

chezza · 19 Nov 2009, 08:40 (Ref:2584850)

Yep thats the general level of changes, the major one was the class structure which has been discussed here so think you should be ok!

Minicross424 · 19 Nov 2009, 17:47 (Ref:2585220)

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Originally Posted by Copperbottom

Main ones are msa requirements, alternator and headlights iirc.

Are head lights a must in all formulas next year then?
Im waiting on the alternator untill i see what the msa blue book classes as a charging device.

andypipe · 19 Nov 2009, 17:56 (Ref:2585225)

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Originally Posted by Minicross424

Are head lights a must in all formulas next year then?
Im waiting on the alternator untill i see what the msa blue book classes as a charging device.

Head lights have been in for a couple of years now

graham bahr · 19 Nov 2009, 18:29 (Ref:2585238)

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Originally Posted by Minicross424

Im waiting on the alternator untill i see what the msa blue book classes as a charging device.

the blue book simply states generator, without defining it,

BUT if you press the MSA as i have on the defination of a generator they will simply state, its charging device capable of supplying all the electrical engine it needed to keep the battery charged whilst the vechiles running which is genarally accepted as being an alternator or dynamo, so you have no choice but fit a proper alternator, windmills or solar panels wont suffice

Copperbottom · 19 Nov 2009, 18:42 (Ref:2585249)

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Originally Posted by andypipe

Head lights have been in for a couple of years now

Yes but the rules have now been modified so that you have to have at least 100mm diameter round or equivilent to 100mm in a different shape per light unit.

**Tim Falce** · 19 Nov 2009, 18:44 (Ref:2585250)

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Originally Posted by andypipe

Head lights have been in for a couple of years now

Unless SRs say differently.

graham bahr · 19 Nov 2009, 18:49 (Ref:2585253)

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Originally Posted by Copperbottom

Yes but the rules have now been modified so that you have to have at least 100mm diameter round or equivilent to 100mm in a different shape per light unit.

the reason being the scruits and other officals have deemed too many cars ti have ineffective lights

Copperbottom · 19 Nov 2009, 18:52 (Ref:2585257)

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Originally Posted by graham bahr

the reason being the scruits and other officals have deemed too many cars ti have ineffective lights

Especially mine

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