Diecast/Models 1:18 and 1:24 Juan Pablo Montoya Models - Page 6

J-C · 26 Sep 2007, 19:22 (Ref:2023793)

I don't think the Telcel car has been released yet - to my knowledge only 2 different JPM cars have been done so far.

I'm fairly sure that the Ebay item is from the Busch car, because all the Fontana Cup pictures I can find have the Big Red quarter panel.

Also from memory JPM got caught in a wreck in the Busch race - it seems the Busch car did run the "with Techron" bit earlier in the season as Matt's picture shows.

It seems then that the livery on the model Knowlesy and I have is a horrible hybrid of the Cup and Busch liveries!

Matt · 26 Sep 2007, 19:55 (Ref:2023814)

Now, that is odd, haha.

Knowlesy · 26 Sep 2007, 20:36 (Ref:2023857)

Yeah, it says in the eBay ad he wrecked in the spring California race.

He did, but it was in the Busch race. He finished the Cup race intact.

Telcel car ain't out yet Matt.

Matt · 26 Sep 2007, 20:40 (Ref:2023863)

Ugh, wasn't that supposed to be out quite a few months ago?

Knowlesy · 26 Sep 2007, 20:59 (Ref:2023878)

There's never been an actual release date given for it. Same for CoT and the Sonoma car.

Matt · 26 Sep 2007, 21:02 (Ref:2023882)

The Dodge CoT's should be out soon. I've seen all the Chevrolet, and Ford ones at Dover, so, the Dodge and Toyota's should be soon.

Knowlesy · 26 Sep 2007, 21:06 (Ref:2023885)

The others have been out a few months though.

I'd guess they will surely be out before seasons end though.

The Chevy CoT looks terrific I must say, seriously considering getting the Dale Jr. Elvis livery from Richmond.

Matt · 26 Sep 2007, 22:07 (Ref:2023919)

Oh yeah, that car was awesome looking! Never, EVER get the Jaime McMurray Crown Royal CoT, the headlights are INCREDIBLY inaccurate.

Matt · 26 Sep 2007, 23:22 (Ref:2023957)

Sorry for another double-post. However, the shirt I picked up at the race, has the same livery as you and J-C's cars, haha.

Knowlesy · 28 Sep 2007, 21:02 (Ref:2025384)

The Montoya collection gets even more diverse.

It seems there is a 1/24 model of his Eldora Late Model dirt track car coming out!

This has to be the coolest collection going, an Indycar, a Champcar, Williams and McLaren F1 cars, various NASCAR's and now a dirt racer.

Matt · 29 Sep 2007, 01:26 (Ref:2025474)

Hmm, I'm REALLY gonna have to get that, haha. Don't think I'll ever end up getting any of his F1 rides though. :-\

**Craig** · 29 Sep 2007, 08:21 (Ref:2025566)

Knowlesy -- you're a bad man! Please stop tempting me! I have no cabinet space spare and I certainly have no money!

But the collection really does look very cool... I guess it's just a matter of time... damn!

J-C · 29 Sep 2007, 13:08 (Ref:2025680)

Great news about the dirt track car - the variety in the JPM collection really is second to none; there's a car from almost all major racing disciplines already, and that's even without the cars that haven't been made in 1:18 or 1:24 like the Daytona 24hrs winner or ITC Mercedes. Very few driver diecast collections can match the diversity, it's the thing I like most about my JPM collection these days.

I think the CoT is now only a couple of weeks ago, or at least the listing for it on NASCAR.com now says "despatched in 2-3 weeks" when it's said "11-12 weeks" for ages.

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2007, 13:45 (Ref:2025703)

Craig, raise cash, buy another cabinet and get this collection. It's pretty darned groovy.

Got to say it is annoying that there are no Daytona 24 cars. I'd honestly pay through the roof for a good, large scale model of one of those.

Matt · 29 Sep 2007, 15:51 (Ref:2025799)

I have a 1:18 of the car Jimmie Johnson ran in the 2004 24hr, but, it's Jimmie Johnson, haha.

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2007, 15:58 (Ref:2025804)

Well clearly I meant one of the 2007 winners.

Matt · 29 Sep 2007, 16:04 (Ref:2025809)

Haha, I figured that much. But hey, those 1:18 Crawfords look niiiiiiiice.

Matt · 30 Sep 2007, 16:35 (Ref:2027048)

Hmm, looking at my car more closely yet again. One thing irks me. The roof seems TOO tall. Like it's a CoT roof, grafted onto a normal body. Just looks awkward to me, haha. They really should make a short-track Busch model as well, without the passenger side window.

**Craig** · 30 Sep 2007, 18:29 (Ref:2027158)

Knowlesy, care to make a list of all the current models from the various manufacturers? Along the lines of those lists in the Senna and Le Mans threads?

Knowlesy · 30 Sep 2007, 19:41 (Ref:2027238)

Here you go. I can add 1/43's too if you want as there are some unique ones in there too, but I figured you're primarily a 1/18 man. I'll add model no's tomorrow if you wish too. I've also omitted the showcars because they are pointless but, again, I can add if needs be.

Year	Scale	Car	Series	Manufacturer	Notes	Released?
1999	1:18	Target Chip Ganassi Reynard Honda	CART	Action	Ltd 5,000	Yes
2000	1:18	Target Chip Ganassi G-Force Oldsmobile (Indy 500 winner)	IRL	Action	Ltd 2,304	Yes
2001	1:18	Williams-BMW FW23	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2002	1:18	Williams-BMW FW24 (Compaq livery)	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2002	1:18	Williams-BMW FW24 (Hewlett Packard livery)	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2003	1:18	Williams-BMW FW25	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2004	1:18	Williams-BMW FW26 ("Walrus" nose)	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2005	1:18	McLaren-Mercedes MP4/20	Formula 1	Minichamps		Yes
2006	1:18	McLaren Mercedes MP4/21 (orange testing livery)	Formula 1	Minichamps	Ltd 1,104	Yes
2006	1:18	McLaren-Mercedes MP4/21	Formula 1	Minichamps	Ltd 2,006	Yes
2007	1:24	Chip Ganassi Texaco Havoline Dodge Charger	NASCAR Cup	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???	Yes
2007	1:24	Chip Ganassi Big Red Dodge Charger	NASCAR Cup	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???	Yes
2007	1:24	Chip Ganassi Texaco Havoline Dodge Avenger	NASCAR Cup	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???	No
2007	1:24	Chip Ganassi Texaco Havoline Dodge Avenger (first win Infineon)	NASCAR Cup	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???, race worn	No
2007	1:24	Chip Ganassi Texaco Havoline Telcel Dodge Charger (first win Mexico City)	NASCAR Busch	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???	No
2007	1:24	Texaco Havoline Eldora Late Model dirt car	Eldora Prelude to the Dream	Motorsports Authentics	Ltd ???	No

**Craig** · 30 Sep 2007, 19:54 (Ref:2027259)

You are right, but always interested in the others too. And there will likely be others who visit here who will find that useful anyway. Nice one!

I have seen some Hot Wheels 1:18 F1 cars - how do they compare to the Minichamps equivalents? I presume the latter are better quality but, not having bought any Hot Wheels stuff before, how much better are Minichamps?

Knowlesy · 30 Sep 2007, 19:57 (Ref:2027263)

Different league better. Do not under any circumstances buy a Mattel F1 diecast!

Try and compare some side by side for example. The McLaren's are absolutely atrocious. Also Mattel don't dare use the correct coloured paints and, as they are a kids company, they don't use alcohol decals too.

Minichamps all the way. It'll cost more, but it's worth it if you are fussed about accuracy and a modicum of quality.

Matt · 30 Sep 2007, 20:00 (Ref:2027266)

Well, I saw a 1:18 Hotwheels Mclaren MP4-21, and, well, it was silver, and the mirrors were HUGE.

**Craig** · 30 Sep 2007, 20:01 (Ref:2027268)

And what is a fair price for a Minichamps F1 car? Presumably it'd depend on what car, but... Sorry, new to this!

Knowlesy · 30 Sep 2007, 20:05 (Ref:2027274)

Depends what you wanna pay.

I would pay anything up to list price which is £40.00-ish. But most should be a bit cheaper than that, £20-£30 at a guess on eBay.

Models like the 2006 cars might be a bit more expensive as they are very limited. And you usually have to pay around £40 for the 2003 FW25 which is hard to find at times. It really depends what car you are after at the end of the day.

Your Indycar/Champcar's are around the £50-£60 mark and usually have to be imported from Yanksville.

NASCAR models are dirt cheap, even though they are imported you can snaffle them for around £25-£30 with postage.

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