Lada WTCC - Page 7

Lam Pak · 3 May 2008, 04:35 (Ref:2193001)

i wanna see that car in macau. do they go to overseas races?

JorritVD · 3 May 2008, 09:06 (Ref:2193075)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

i wanna see that car in macau. do they go to overseas races?

yes,

stedevil · 3 May 2008, 09:15 (Ref:2193084)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Hot **** that's one ugly car, haha.

Looks pretty similar with contemporary other European and Japanese cars in similar cathegories. Conversly American car design aint considered too hot over here...

Testdriver · 3 May 2008, 12:52 (Ref:2193164)

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Originally Posted by SGarage

It may feels a shame for you, but don't speak for all russians. To develop a race car you need a knowledge and experience, and that's what russian racing teams don't have. Where else you can achieve the maximum possible result? So attempt that Russian Bears is doing by develoing and entering such high level of competition will bring to the team much more experience than doing the same localy.

mmm...i speak for the greater piece of russians...when have you been in Russia last time?...supporters laught at this team...Van Lagen says that Chevrolet was on last positions on a grid 2-3 years ago....BUT!!!!...
1. Russian Bears dont have such manager like Eric Neve.
2. The dont have support of the manufacture.
3. The have 2 mediocre race drivers.

PS Better they help to build race tracks in MY coutry. And then go to Europe!

Dead-Eye · 3 May 2008, 13:09 (Ref:2193181)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

PS Better they help to build race tracks in MY coutry. And then go to Europe!

Yeah...because building racetracks can be accomplished with the same budget as entering WTCC

**FIRE** · 3 May 2008, 13:49 (Ref:2193200)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

because it was already built ? ..
don't think Russian Bears have the facilities to build an S2000 car from scratch ..

You are right. In my enthousiasm about this stunning looking car (

) I forgot they used the cars which were developed by that German team.

stedevil · 3 May 2008, 15:53 (Ref:2193254)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

2. The dont have support of the manufacture.

Umm... who on earth was discussing RB fighting it out with the FACTORY teams? An independent team obviously will be fighting vs the other indie teams...

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3. The have 2 mediocre race drivers.

Ummm... I'm not so sure neither of their drivers can drive... at least the Dutch guy seems to know how to drive cars.

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PS Better they help to build race tracks in MY coutry. And then go to Europe!

It is certainly not the option for a single team to build a racetrack... if they have that kind of money just lying around, they can easily develop a car to fight it out with the manufacturer teams...

Testdriver · 3 May 2008, 17:25 (Ref:2193290)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

Ummm... I'm not so sure neither of their drivers can drive... at least the Dutch guy seems to know how to drive cars.

Megane Trophy is the semi-amateur cup...closer to amateur i think...but WTCC is the professional championship

Testdriver · 3 May 2008, 17:33 (Ref:2193294)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

It is certainly not the option for a single team to build a racetrack... if they have that kind of money just lying around, they can easily develop a car to fight it out with the manufacturer teams...

...ok but there is no way to develop RUSSIAN motorsport!(so they dont have supporters in Russia)...it would be a little bit better if Bears have invite russian driver...

stedevil · 3 May 2008, 17:36 (Ref:2193295)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

Megane Trophy is the semi-amateur cup...closer to amateur i think...but WTCC is the professional championship

http://jvl-racing.com/

No comment...

Testdriver · 3 May 2008, 17:43 (Ref:2193298)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

Umm... who on earth was discussing RB fighting it out with the FACTORY teams? An independent team obviously will be fighting vs the other indie teams...

aha...but "indie" teams dont develop race car...they use cars, built by factory teams...

Testdriver · 3 May 2008, 17:46 (Ref:2193300)

http://jvl-racing.com/profile/

and what?what outstanding in this?Champion of the Dutch Drift Challenge?????...lol

stedevil · 3 May 2008, 17:57 (Ref:2193303)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

aha...but "indie" teams dont develop race car...they use cars, built by factory teams...

If you belive that, maybe you need to learn a bit more about TCCs in general before you come with advice of how and what RB should be doing?

It also shows a bit of your knowledge about what makes a good driver that you see drifting as a joke. Drifting requires extremely good car control, so such skills are definitly a good thing even in a TC. Further it's interesting to note how you struggle to ignore his merits with racing Porsche and Audi R8...

**Dani Filth** · 3 May 2008, 20:19 (Ref:2193387)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

...ok but there is no way to develop RUSSIAN motorsport!(so they dont have supporters in Russia)...it would be a little bit better if Bears have invite russian driver...

why does it have to do that ?
isn't that a burden a bit to big for them ?? this ain't gymnastics ..

if they don't have supporters in Russia .. i'll support them .. and I'm sure a few others will

racer69 · 4 May 2008, 07:40 (Ref:2193583)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

aha...but "indie" teams dont develop race car...they use cars, built by factory teams...

plenty of "indie" teams have built & developed their own cars, look at Team Dynamics in the BTCC, they won the thing in 2005 and 2006 with their own Integra

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

if they don't have supporters in Russia .. i'll support them .. and I'm sure a few others will

As a Lada owner myself i'm right behind them, its great to see the name back in motorsport, and good to see a new marque in the WTCC.....

And besides everyone is already expecting them to be hopeless, so at worst they'll live up to expectations, at best they'll impress, good on them for having a go!!

Bramzel · 4 May 2008, 12:52 (Ref:2193758)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

http://jvl-racing.com/profile/

and what?what outstanding in this?Champion of the Dutch Drift Challenge?????...lol

Don't make a fool out of yourself by calling Jaap van Lagen a mediocre driver. It shows that you have no idea what you're talking about....

For the rest I completely agree with Dani. If you don't want to cheer for them, then don't. Nobody's forcing you to like them. I will though, and I'm pretty sure some others as well.

SGarage · 4 May 2008, 15:42 (Ref:2193834)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

mmm...i speak for the greater piece of russians...when have you been in Russia last time?...supporters laught at this team...Van Lagen says that Chevrolet was on last positions on a grid 2-3 years ago....BUT!!!!...
1. Russian Bears dont have such manager like Eric Neve.
2. The dont have support of the manufacture.
3. The have 2 mediocre race drivers.

PS Better they help to build race tracks in MY coutry. And then go to Europe!

I am from Russia

and I'm involved in TC racing for the past 10 years. And I think only stupid people can laugh on something they have no idea about.

Valenok · 5 May 2008, 08:09 (Ref:2194215)

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

PS Better they help to build race tracks in MY coutry. And then go to Europe!

I've heard, Russians will have 4 new tracks in two nearest years - why do you want more?

Valker · 6 May 2008, 16:27 (Ref:2195337)

Šapovalov about 5 secs off the pace today:

http://www.mstworld.com/msptresult.a...esultfile=wtc1

Not bad... I think Šapovalov isn't the fastest driver ever and considering the very limited amount of testing the team have done, it's not as miserable as I thought

duke_toaster · 6 May 2008, 16:33 (Ref:2195342)

They might be testing on a race setup/strategy, and it's Mr Van Lagen who should be bringing home the bacon pointswise, I'd say JVL could be mid pack and possibly higher by the end of the year.

stedevil · 6 May 2008, 18:54 (Ref:2195416)

I have to agree, if Sap at this point is only 5s behind the top of the factory teams... Lagen might for real be chasing for the odd point here and there and certainly can be a contender in the Independents trophy.

kristof14 · 6 May 2008, 22:20 (Ref:2195575)

Not too bad a time considering the lack of testing so far and the drivers inexperience of the track. Also he only managed 15 laps before the engine broke, a lot more promising than I think a lot of people expected.

Valenok · 8 May 2008, 09:00 (Ref:2196696)

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Originally Posted by Valenok

I've heard, Russians will have 4 new tracks in two nearest years - why do you want more?

Another 'tilkedrom'
If somebody stand russian, you can see how real russian track's can be.
http://www.smolensk-ring.ru/index.html
3362m length, 12-14m wide, 13 corners,

**Dani Filth** · 8 May 2008, 09:32 (Ref:2196712)

another tilkedrom is always better than nothing

mattt · 8 May 2008, 15:58 (Ref:2196990)

its seems a nice circuit to me from my view

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