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Old 7 Oct 2013, 09:21 (Ref:3314021)   #26
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I must be a bit odd.
Watching cars in a close battle is great. Maybe better if it is for the lead, but as entertainment there was some pretty good stuff a bit further back.
And the TV director stuck with it because Hamilton was involved!!!!
If they concentrated on the battles more perhaps the ratings would improve.
Gave it an 8

Err, wasn't Hamilton involved in the only major battle of the race?

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BUT, i saw Grosjean try to put Raikkonen into a grandstand.

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Old 7 Oct 2013, 09:49 (Ref:3314032)   #27
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Best race so far, gave it a big 9 enjoyed it from go to finish.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 09:50 (Ref:3314033)   #28
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Terrible circuit, however the race itself wasn't all that bad. Also, in the era of OTT track safety, who passed that final corner as safe? Its a full throttle right hander with a wall at the track edge and not a tarmac run off in sight...?
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 10:22 (Ref:3314046)   #29
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Well that's because of all the skyscrape..........er.......s........

Oh, yeah.

It does look completely daft having a street circuit in the middle of nowhere. Almost like Geoff Crammond's 'GP2' when you turn all the trackside objects off.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 12:06 (Ref:3314069)   #30
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If it hadn't been for the things that made this race interesting it would have been dull. 1/10 from me.
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Which in the history of the sport is very unusual.
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I've not noticed this only show Hamilton thing. Not been looking for it mind.
Sky Sports seem to have gone very pro-Hamilton in these last few races. Don't watch the Beeb, so don't know what it's like over there, although I can't imagine that his "We are of a higher calibre" statement went down too well with anyone.

8 from me. Drivers moaning about tyres has never happened before in F1.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 12:12 (Ref:3314073)   #31
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I actually enjoyed it, good driving midfield. True, it's been helped by the safety car periods and you have to trick yourself into forgetting that there's still Vettel driving around ahead of the others, but it was entertaining none the less.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 12:28 (Ref:3314081)   #32
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Livened up at the end, but a frankly unbelievable tyre failure and the subsequent deployment of that vehicle loses the race marks. 4/10.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 15:05 (Ref:3314137)   #33
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Livened up at the end, but a frankly unbelievable tyre failure and the subsequent deployment of that vehicle loses the race marks. 4/10.
Worn out tyre in massive lock up goes bang a bit later. Why is that unbelievable?

Although that marshals car on track was a bit weird.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 15:45 (Ref:3314156)   #34
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By the way I often think the ratings on this forum are (quite logically) more about the coverage to air choices of the TV director than the actual race. Care to comment.
good point and certainly affects my vote.

but while i think they did a good job focusing on the right battles in this race, seeing the empty grandstands really turned me off at the same time.

gave it a 6.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 16:52 (Ref:3314195)   #35
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good point and certainly affects my vote.

but while i think they did a good job focusing on the right battles in this race, seeing the empty grandstands really turned me off at the same time.

gave it a 6.
Spent a lot of time in S.Korea last year, including the weeked of the GP IIRC. I was nr Soeul, where most of the population is. The race is on the other side of the country, so didnt bother to go...very much like the population of Seoul. My Korean colleagues didn't really know much about F1 either...
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 16:56 (Ref:3314201)   #36
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Easily one of the best races of the year. 8.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 18:30 (Ref:3314241)   #37
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Didn't mean that they ONLY show Hamilton.
I didn't mean that you meant that they ONLY show Hamilton. Was wasn't being literal.

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But with a British production team thinking about their home market they like to ensure that if he is involved in a dice it gets covered.
I haven't noticed that they are more likely to show a Hamilton dice than any other. Haven't been looking for it mind.

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I agree, most people watch the race on telly so that is their reference. We have no choice. That isn't totally true, but not many use the alternate in card feeds I would imagine. Personally I love that they are there, but still rely on the director, after all he has a million screens in front of him to chose the best action, or where Hamilton is.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 20:07 (Ref:3314271)   #38
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Only a 4. Hulkenbeg's scap with Alonso and Hamilton aside, it was a snooze fest. Can someone please kidnap Adrian Newey and lock him away for a few years so we can actually get some proper racing at the front of the field.
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 23:09 (Ref:3314327)   #39
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Only a 4. Hulkenbeg's scap with Alonso and Hamilton aside, it was a snooze fest. Can someone please kidnap Adrian Newey and lock him away for a few years so we can actually get some proper racing at the front of the field.
Yeah ! There's always hope that can happen in Brazil... for how much ??
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Old 7 Oct 2013, 23:54 (Ref:3314341)   #40
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With hard uncompromising racing for every points position, except the race lead, the Korean GP was far from being a snooze-fest. And when did you see the last time a Sauber fighting successfully against a train of Mercedes, Ferrari, and McLaren cars? The fans were polite enough not to boo Vettel, and the grid girls were the hottest so far this year.

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4 from me, and I dont know why that was, maybe coz I read a few reviews.

I managed about 20 minutes of highlights before I turned off.

Since when did F1 become endurance racing? If I wanted to see that (and I never do) I would be getting excited about some dullard race in France 5 minutes after the last one finished like they all do!

Borefest for me sorry.
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Worn out tyre in massive lock up goes bang a bit later. Why is that unbelievable?
Agreed. Nothing exceptional there at all, IMO. You cane a tyre that's already stuffed - what do you expect to happen?
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4 from me, and I dont know why that was, maybe coz I read a few reviews.

I managed about 20 minutes of highlights before I turned off.

Since when did F1 become endurance racing? If I wanted to see that (and I never do) I would be getting excited about some dullard race in France 5 minutes after the last one finished like they all do!

Borefest for me sorry.
Oh give us a rest.........
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Old 8 Oct 2013, 10:13 (Ref:3314513)   #45
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Agreed. Nothing exceptional there at all, IMO. You cane a tyre that's already stuffed - what do you expect to happen?
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Agreed. Alain Prost made a whole F1 career out of not wearing out tyres like the other drivers did. Four WDCs can't be wrong.
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Agreed. Alain Prost made a whole F1 career out of not wearing out tyres like the other drivers did. Four WDCs can't be wrong.
Then again, Goodyear weren't producing tyres that dropped off after only a few laps or so. That's the solution, get rid of Pirelli and bring back Goodyear.
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Old 8 Oct 2013, 15:01 (Ref:3314644)   #47
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There's no need to get rid of Pirelli - they're just doing what they were asked to do. Since 1906 until the modern age, tyres let down their users by accident, not by design.

What has it come to, when "the show" is more important than the racing?
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Can't we have a "gentleman's agreement" that if you haven't actually watched the race, as several posters here admit, you refrain from rating it? Because if you haven't seen it - how the heck can you judge it?

I only saw the Beeb highlights, but reckon that, Seb strolling away aside, the race was pretty good - certainly plenty of fighting throughout the field. Amazing traction that Hulk enjoyed, but he certainly made it stick

Gave it 7.
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I must be a bit odd.
Watching cars in a close battle is great. Maybe better if it is for the lead, but as entertainment there was some pretty good stuff a bit further back.
And the TV director stuck with it because Hamilton was involved!!!!
If they concentrated on the battles more perhaps the ratings would improve.
Gave it an 8
100% with you, they didn't spend too much time on Vettle (thankfully, because there awas quite a bit of good action going on

Best Korean GP ever (that is a small statement LOL)
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Can't we have a "gentleman's agreement" that if you haven't actually watched the race, as several posters here admit, you refrain from rating it? Because if you haven't seen it - how the heck can you judge it?

I only saw the Beeb highlights, but reckon that, Seb strolling away aside, the race was pretty good - certainly plenty of fighting throughout the field. Amazing traction that Hulk enjoyed, but he certainly made it stick

Gave it 7.
I'll join you in the gentleman's agreement call!

"Because if you haven't seen it - how the heck can you judge it?"

Hulk gave one of the best demonstrations of defensive driving I have seen.
He defended when necessary and continued to concentrate on lap and cornering speed when the opposition could not pass. Also struck back quickly when passed. Great driving!
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