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Old 22 Oct 2010, 08:50 (Ref:2778298)   #51
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It's interesting because some years ago I've read that Alfa Romeo were planing to enter Grand-Am with C8-style DP.
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Old 22 Oct 2010, 12:05 (Ref:2778372)   #52
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It's interesting because some years ago I've read that Alfa Romeo were planing to enter Grand-Am with C8-style DP.
Nope, Alfa Romeo was never officially involved in this, only Picchio.
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Old 22 Oct 2010, 18:54 (Ref:2778502)   #53
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Nope, Alfa Romeo was never officially involved in this, only Picchio.
sorry,what do you mean with "Picchio"?

however Marchione said recently tha alfa and maserati could back into motorsport

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/498...eo-e-maserati-
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Old 22 Oct 2010, 19:13 (Ref:2778508)   #54
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Old 23 Oct 2010, 18:26 (Ref:2779023)   #55
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website not working however I found more info on google,it was new for me and it's from italy too

I found this old-study about an 8c for Grand Am
http://www.omniauto.it/magazine/2678/picchio-dp3
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Old 23 Oct 2010, 18:30 (Ref:2779026)   #56
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www.picchio.com

Here their website is working.
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Old 25 Oct 2010, 10:30 (Ref:2780145)   #57
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I'm quite excited by this announcement.

What's going on with Grand Am though? I can see NASCAR finding a DTM based series with heavy backing from the Euro and Japanese factories a lot more marketable than the current GA plan to American road racing fans but I can't see them sacrificing their own baby for it either.

It appears a massive sea change in global motorsports is in the making, 2014/15 could be very interesting years for the sport as a whole.
Most likely (IMO) $$$ to help subsidize GA. That and an international helping hand (down the road) for NASCAR.
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Old 25 Oct 2010, 19:12 (Ref:2780367)   #58
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www.picchio.com

Here their website is working.
it works thanks
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 20:01 (Ref:2780878)   #59
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Nascar might be moving to a new car in 2013?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...or-2013-102510
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Old 27 Oct 2010, 16:35 (Ref:2781204)   #60
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NASCAR switching to DTM cars? The real NASCAR fans wouldn't survive that.

But serious. I am sure this has nothing to do with DTM.
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Old 27 Oct 2010, 20:04 (Ref:2781299)   #61
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Nascar manufacturers would prefer cars that look like real cars. Of course, if they used proper bodies a la DTM and V8 Supercars, it would be insanely tough to make performance match when driving at 300km/h. That's why the new Nationwide cars still have identical rears, which Chevrolet disliked for their Camaro.
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I've not really believed that a US DTM series was possible due to the large amount of money it would take to buy the cars and run them. Especially since money in US motorsports is particularly tight, but I may have came up with a possible solution.

First, the costs of running the series are likely going to be greatly reduced by piggybacking on existing NASCAR/GA rounds so that helps from a logistical point of view.

Second, with the addition of BMW to DTM in 2012, Audi and Merc will have fewer cars in the championship, so potentially there could be more manufacturer assistance available.

Third, following the logic of #2 above the amount of assistance needed from each manufacturer would further decrease if more manufacturers came on board. This could come about from GM sponsoring a Cadillac DTM, and/or a tie-in with SuperGT. For instance, if each manufacturer only had to help two 2-car teams the costs would be much cheaper.

I still have my doubts of this championship getting off the ground, but hey anything is possible.
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I haven't heard a peep for a while.

I think the big idea was you'd have a single set of rules from Super GT to DTM to whatever the new American series would be called. Unless I missed something, that doesn't look like it's happening.
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I haven't heard a peep for a while.

I think the big idea was you'd have a single set of rules from Super GT to DTM to whatever the new American series would be called. Unless I missed something, that doesn't look like it's happening.
I was (or am) skeptical as well but silence doesn't have to be a bad thing. I thought the Super GT link was done pretty much and just today this came round:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=7091

So stuff is still moving behind the scenes.
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Old 15 Dec 2011, 21:34 (Ref:3000459)   #65
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After my above post, I found this in the inbox:

DTM America race series takes another step closer to reality

So it sounds like the manufacturers were just planning on bank rolling the series anyways regardless of the number of them. (the details of the article are the same as what Acid09 posted above)
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If the Germans ruin Super GT, I'll go ballistic.
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Old 16 Dec 2011, 20:08 (Ref:3000962)   #67
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It appears a massive sea change in global motorsports is in the making, 2014/15 could be very interesting years for the sport as a whole.
Absolutely, pretty exciting stuff!
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Old 16 Dec 2011, 20:14 (Ref:3000965)   #68
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Yeah that would be a real shame. I would prefer it if the DTM moved towards SGT regs rather than vice-versa.

I hope that the DTM USA championship is a success because I really like the series idea.
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If chrysler chose to join the DTM USA championship then they might be inclined to run a Lancia in the 'European' DTM because I'm pretty sure Chrysler own Lancia. It would be an incredibly costly operation and which car would they use?
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If chrysler chose to join the DTM USA championship then they might be inclined to run a Lancia in the 'European' DTM because I'm pretty sure Chrysler own Lancia. It would be an incredibly costly operation and which car would they use?
It's actually the other way around, the Fiat corporation (owner of Alfa Romeo, Fiat and Lancia amongst others) owns Chrysler. So they could enter a Chrysler in the US and use it as an Alfa Romeo in Europe.
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It's actually the other way around, the Fiat corporation (owner of Alfa Romeo, Fiat and Lancia amongst others) owns Chrysler. So they could enter a Chrysler in the US and use it as an Alfa Romeo in Europe.
Oh so that's the connection! Thanks for the correction. Alfa Romeo back in the DTM would be brilliant!
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Oh so that's the connection! Thanks for the correction. Alfa Romeo back in the DTM would be brilliant!
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*Dreams about Martini and Jägermeister Alfa's*
Yeah!!! I wondered how long it would take for someone to say that!
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