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Old 10 Nov 2016, 19:53 (Ref:3687021)   #151
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yasssss TCR Vesta's!
I hate to disturb your happiness but I have just learned from a close source that AvtoVAZ does not want to sell the car to race it in TCR. It will not even have a 2.0l turbo engine. They only want to race with it in Russia. So if there will be a Vesta in TCR it would be a privately tuned car, like the Subaru or the Alfa.
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Old 10 Nov 2016, 20:30 (Ref:3687027)   #152
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I hate to disturb your happiness but I have just learned from a close source that AvtoVAZ does not want to sell the car to race it in TCR. It will not even have a 2.0l turbo engine. They only want to race with it in Russia. So if there will be a Vesta in TCR it would be a privately tuned car, like the Subaru or the Alfa.
Yes. Only for TCR Russia. But if the car can compete with Leon I think they will tune it just like 308 for other TCR series.
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Old 17 Nov 2016, 14:45 (Ref:3688849)   #153
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3 Volvo confirmed.
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Old 24 Nov 2016, 20:59 (Ref:3690792)   #154
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Josh Files in WTCC?
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 10:08 (Ref:3690891)   #155
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Whitch car is he gonna drive then ?
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 10:09 (Ref:3690893)   #156
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And what does the driver line up look like so far ?
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 16:19 (Ref:3690964)   #157
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Honda and Volvo have confirmed that they enter a factory team.

Volvo confirmed 3 cars. Nothing is certain about the drivers so far. Dahlgren is hoping that he gets a contract. I would assume that Björk and Girolami are more likely candidates though.

Honda didn't say how many cars, but I think it will be 3. I read a rumour somewhere that it will be Monteiro, Michelisz and a Japanese driver (Michigami?), but then a german page also reported they will keep their current 3 drivers.

As for the privateers, Sebastien Loeb Racing is gonna continue with Citroen. Bennani said in an interview a while back that he wants a factory contract or he might leave WTCC. Don't think he will get a factory deal, but he has the backing so I wouldn't rule him out. Chilton said in an interview that WTCC is one of 3 options for him.
ROAL and Tom Coronel are looking at buying a Citroen as well, if it is financially possible.
Zengö wants to continue with Honda, ideally with 2 cars.

Then there is Josh Files, who would most likely drive a Honda. But for Zengö? I don't think so, cause they usually have only Hungarian drivers. Or will Target enter WTCC? Or a 4th JAS car?
Esteban Guerrieri is also trying to put together a WTCC program, maybe part-time.

Tarquini and Catsburg had a LADA contract and are now out of contract. Catsburg is also a BMW driver so I think he's gone. Somehow I won't rule out Tarquini just yet, he might put something together (I hope Volvo ). For Valente there was a TCR rumour.

No news from Campos or Münnich, and I haven't heard from new teams either.
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 18:23 (Ref:3690982)   #158
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Josh Files has no interest in BTCC?
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 19:28 (Ref:3691005)   #159
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I think Files wants to run in TCR International.

Surely, not WTCC.
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 19:32 (Ref:3691006)   #160
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Yes, he want to run in TCR International
He was guest for JAS in Qatar
I think he said on his fb in past that he will only run in Germany or some international series because level of professionalism is higher.
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Old 25 Nov 2016, 21:24 (Ref:3691036)   #161
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motorsport-total.com is reporting that Macau and Monza (!) will be on the schedule for 2017 and that the races in France, Slovakia and Thailand will be dropped.
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 10:37 (Ref:3691103)   #162
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I love the fact that the series is coming back to the end of season races at Macau
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 16:29 (Ref:3691160)   #163
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motorsport-total.com is reporting that Macau and Monza (!) will be on the schedule for 2017 and that the races in France, Slovakia and Thailand will be dropped.
Citroen exit so no French race. Not a surprise.
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 20:47 (Ref:3691236)   #164
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I love the fact that the series is coming back to the end of season races at Macau
Unfortunatey the plan is to finish the season at that dull Losail track in December.. That circuit is completely not suited to touring car racing and there were almost 0 spectators this weekend. If they want a night race as a final venue so desperately, why can't they find something better?

Just imagine a finale on the night streets of Macau. Sweet dreams.

Very happy about Macau return. Won't really miss Slovakia but will miss Paul Ricard. Although I don't like the circuit itself because it is too artificial, it always provided fantastic racing.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 09:40 (Ref:3691343)   #165
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2. class is coming.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 09:46 (Ref:3691344)   #166
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If GT racing is anything to go by, history tells us that the lower classes always take over as the main event!

British GT used to field GT1 and GT2 machinery, after a few years GT2 took over as the main class and they introduced a cup class (this later evolved into GT3 as we know it today). Low and behold GT3 becomes the main class and they introduce GT4. Now there's rumblings that GT4 might take over as the main class with an even lower class added to bolster numbers!

It's a real shame that NGTC never took off outside of Britain as speed-wise they're quicker than TCR which looks like the way things will end up on the world scene!
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 10:05 (Ref:3691348)   #167
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TCR cars in WTCC, simply ridiculous.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 10:43 (Ref:3691352)   #168
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I wouldn't be surprised to see them introducing TCR as a second class for next year. Not sure how many takers they'll find, but that's pretty much a standard desperation move when series get into problems with seriously thin grids.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 11:44 (Ref:3691362)   #169
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Previously people moaned - TC1 cars are s***, replace it with TCR. Now people moan - WTCC adds TCR, how stupid etc. Come on...

Actually, not a good one. I highly doubt that second class will get much attention - you know, every year WTCC promise to give more TV time nd attention to indies etc. but they still don't focus on them and they don't promote their independent championship at all. Same will be with this second class. Therefore I guess it will probably attract 3-4 cars, not more. I hope I'm wrong
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 11:49 (Ref:3691366)   #170
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They should switch from TC1 to NGTC cars.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 12:05 (Ref:3691368)   #171
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What a worthless managment Eurosport Events have...

2017 - mixed grid with TC1 and TCR cars.

2018 - onlyTCR cars

2019 - only Class One cars

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- Why don't support WTCC management more the private teams/drivers? They still can fill the grid with 18-2 TC1 cars (factory Volvo + Honda, SLR Citroens, RML Cruze-s and private Civic's). OK it requires major financial support fron the organizer, but in this situation they should do this.

- What the Volvo think about that? They developed a race car, and they can race only two seasons with that? Can thay do some financial compensation or a legal action against the organizesr?

- Why any team enter a TCR car next year to race in a second class?

- Why any team buy a TCR car in 2018 if class One will coming from 2019?

- Is it 100% that there will be enough Class One cars from 2019? Bacause DTM cars and Super GT cars still use different type of engines + is it surethat this factories are interested about WTCC?

- What will be the conception? Factories wil lrace their new Class One cars or DTM/Super GT teams will sell/lease their year old cars to the WTCC team?
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 12:09 (Ref:3691369)   #172
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Citroen exit so no French race. Not a surprise.
France, Germany and the UK are still the biggest european markets. For me it's a surprise that the management are so stupid to miss these countries (ok, we have german race now, but there was also a little break).
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 12:31 (Ref:3691371)   #173
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Previously people moaned - TC1 cars are s***, replace it with TCR. Now people moan - WTCC adds TCR, how stupid etc. Come on...
"Replace" and "add" is different. But TCN-2 is simply a FIA-copy from TCR, not an FIA idea.

Maybe FIA will change the TCN-2 rules to allow official teams for WTCC, leaving the Class One idea to DTM. Who knows.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 12:36 (Ref:3691373)   #174
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"Replace" and "add" is different. But TCN-2 is simply a FIA-copy from TCR, not an FIA idea.
Get your point.

TCR only in 2018? Errm, so what Volvo is going to do?
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 13:20 (Ref:3691381)   #175
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It's a real shame that NGTC never took off outside of Britain
Alan Gow doesn't want that.
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