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Old 18 Nov 2012, 18:03 (Ref:3168008)   #1
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2013 SCCA Pirelli World Challenge

As the ALMS and Grand Am are in a state of flux a far as rules and future cars, classes and technology, in the meantime and for the foreseeable future the SCCA has a pretty nice all-GT option for us fans of sports car racing, albeit in a sprint format. I've picked up on it and followed regularly since the switch to a full racing slick in 2011, and honestly there has been some great racing in both GT and GTS / ST amongst all kinds of makes and models.

As far as what a sports car fan looks for, the series honestly ticks a lot of boxes. Turbo and NA motors going head to head, privateers and manufacturers, exotics and muscle cars, etc etc. The spec tire has pluses and minuses, and the rewards weight / weight reduction scheme may turn away some, but it does end up with some great racing. It reminds me a lot of the GTO/GTU in the late 80s and early 90s but without all the tube-framers.

The SCCA has just announced their 2013 schedule, with new races at Circuit of the Americas with V8 Supercars, and at Lime Rock with the ALMS, for a total of 13 rounds.

2013 Pirelli World Challenge Schedule of Events

March 22–24, Streets of St. Petersburg (with IndyCar). St. Petersburg, Fla. (GT, GTS)

April 19–21, Streets of Long Beach (with IndyCar/ALMS). Long Beach, Calif.
(GT, GTS)

May 17-19, Circuit of the Americas (with Australian V8 Supercars Championship). Austin, Texas. (GT, GTS, Touring Car, Touring Car B-Spec)

May 31–June 2, Detroit Belle Isle Grand Prix, (with IndyCar). Detroit, Mich. (GT, GTS)

July 4–6, Lime Rock Park (with ALMS). Lakeville, Conn. (GT, GTS, TC, TCB)

July 12–14, Streets of Toronto, (with IndyCar). Toronto, Ont. Can. (GT, GTS, TC, TCB)

August 2–4, Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course (with IndyCar). Lexington, Ohio (GT, GTS, TC, TCB)

August 23–25, Sonoma Raceway (with IndyCar). Sonoma, Calif. (GT, GTS, TC, TCB)

Oct. 4–6, Streets of Houston (with IndyCar). Houston, Texas (GT, GTS, TC, TCB)


Anybody else a fan?

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Old 18 Nov 2012, 19:23 (Ref:3168039)   #2
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Used to watch it all the time when was on Speed but they make it hard to find it now. Is some really good racing most of the time though and sounded GREAT at PLM '12. Was really hoping the '13 schedule would have included them back at Road Atlanta but maybe U-Verse will be better at recording the races right and I won't miss them next season.
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Old 18 Nov 2012, 19:37 (Ref:3168045)   #3
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Hard to find on TV is the problem ... I have seen them live a couple times and it is usually high-action, but I have never tried to actually follow the series online and on TV to always know who was doing what.

The way the rest of North American racing is going, PWC might be getting a Lot of new fans.
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Any idea as to World Challenge entries?

Will Randy Pobst be back with volvo?
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Old 18 Nov 2012, 20:15 (Ref:3168051)   #5
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Hoping they'll get GTS sorted out and get the Boss 302s a bit more competitive next year!
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Old 18 Nov 2012, 20:57 (Ref:3168063)   #6
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According to this, GT3 cars will be racing next year.
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Old 18 Nov 2012, 21:51 (Ref:3168118)   #7
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About time somebody allows gt3 cars to run in the US (grand-am not withstanding). That would really be a good direction for the series to go in. I'm excited to see who shows up and with what. I know there are some Audi's ready to race, and I haven't filled WC much this year but haven't there already been some gt3 spec cars running?
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I love World Challenge.

If you want live coverage, every race is streamed live on their site. I've never tried it, but it's an alternative to the tape-delayed NBCSN broadcasts, or an option for those outside the U.S.

I'm definitely interested in GT3 cars joining...
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I haven't filled WC much this year but haven't there already been some gt3 spec cars running?
Yes, the Aston Martin DBRS9
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I love World Challenge.

If you want live coverage, every race is streamed live on their site. I've never tried it, but it's an alternative to the tape-delayed NBCSN broadcasts, or an option for those outside the U.S.

I'm definitely interested in GT3 cars joining...
They stream and archive races on their site. I used to watch them religiously, until I kinda forgot about the series. The streaming was always great, although not quite as good picture than the ALMS feed.

If this series ran with ALMS, I would be a huge fan. But since they run with Indycar (that I entirely ignore and will not attend a race), they won't get any attention from me.
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Hard to find on TV is the problem ... I have seen them live a couple times and it is usually high-action, but I have never tried to actually follow the series online and on TV to always know who was doing what.

The way the rest of North American racing is going, PWC might be getting a Lot of new fans.
Yeah the TV package is abysmal, and although all the races are available online at world-challengetv.com they aren't so user friendly. They are up pretty much right away though. It'd be nice if they uploaded to Youtube, and they have a Youtube channel, but no races.

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Any idea as to World Challenge entries?

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That I'm not sure of, I'd imagine he will be though.

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Hoping they'll get GTS sorted out and get the Boss 302s a bit more competitive next year!
Yeah they need to rein in the turbos in GTS a bit. Those Kias were way fast this year...

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About time somebody allows gt3 cars to run in the US (grand-am not withstanding). That would really be a good direction for the series to go in. I'm excited to see who shows up and with what. I know there are some Audi's ready to race, and I haven't filled WC much this year but haven't there already been some gt3 spec cars running?
GMG has a couple Audi R8 LMS cars. They've run a few times and per James Sefronas on a WC video it's box-stock as it runs in GT3 but has a slightly smaller restricter and a little less front / rear splitter / wing.

Another interesting thing I saw the other day: Fabryse from GMG put up a pic on Instagram the other day of a turbo motor going into one of their GT3 Cup WC race cars.
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Thats great news. Shouldve happened a while ago. It'll be interesting to see how the GT3 current generation like the R8 LMS Ultra, Merc, McLaren pace compared to the home grown stuff that already runs in the series.

Havent followed the series closely for a couple of years, they run on slicks?
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Yeah, they run P Zero slicks now. Used to run cut down(i think) Toyo street tires with a racing compound, did make for some good races with Andy Pilgrim would come storming back through the field as the tires he saved under the Caddy helped him pass the fast starters. And maybe the best Audi commercial ever was the start of a race in the rain; think Caddy or Viper had locked out the front row. Lights go out to start and suddenly there appears the Audis out from behind the front row and around the leaders to turn 1. Was an impressive ad for Quattro.

Series might get some better pub now with F1 joining them on NBC Sports. And apparently there's some other race series on there too
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Thanks broadrun, I remember when they used to use toyos and heard about a move to full slicks but havent really kept up to date with the series for a while.

Remember the Audi starts though, great to watch.
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Yeah, they run P Zero slicks now. Used to run cut down(i think) Toyo street tires with a racing compound, did make for some good races with Andy Pilgrim would come storming back through the field as the tires he saved under the Caddy helped him pass the fast starters. And maybe the best Audi commercial ever was the start of a race in the rain; think Caddy or Viper had locked out the front row. Lights go out to start and suddenly there appears the Audis out from behind the front row and around the leaders to turn 1. Was an impressive ad for Quattro.

Series might get some better pub now with F1 joining them on NBC Sports. And apparently there's some other race series on there too
I believe they used to run shaved Toyo Proxes Ra1's. I think that Audi commercial was from a Derek Bell start at a wet Mosport. I've loved WC since I started going to sports car races in the mid-90's... moving from SPEED channel, and the adding of classes turned me off. I enjoyed single-class GT sprint races and more traditional touring car races as separate events.

The move to add GT3 cars is nothing official from what I've seen. As has been pointed out, "GT3"-ish cars have been featured in the series since 2006, when the (modified) DBRS9 made its debut. Last year we even had one-offs from an Audi R8 lms.

I think GMG has suggested they could run as many as five R8 lms/Ultra next year. I also think that a couple of teams are looking at bringing GT3-sourced machinery into WCGT, but they will have to change the cars to satisfy SCCA scrutineers.

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