Brands Hatch Engine Checks

Athgoe Racing · 5 Dec 2009, 10:56 (Ref:2594381)

My Engine was stripped and checked in Neil Bolds on Tuesday last and all was found to be OK. So if there was any doubt about Mr Bold i think this leaves him 100% in the clear.

I have to say the scrutineering at the FFF this year was the best we've had in 10 years and was great to see, they were on top of things every step of the way and i hope this will continue both for the Champs and the Trophy races next year.

We should have the top 3 sealed in each Championship and in each Trophy race even if it's a small bit extra on the entry fee, for the good of the class !

kartingdad · 7 Dec 2009, 09:19 (Ref:2595339)

Good plan

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 13:40 (Ref:2597291)

seal top 3 and random check seal on 3 more drawn out of the hat at each round
how do you seal the carb to the motor if it goes down in a race test or qualifying?

youngoldy · 10 Dec 2009, 13:49 (Ref:2597298)

If you are refering to the Malvern festival occurance, I was under the impression it got changed during testing, not the qually/racing periods. 'The carburettor on the Ray GR06 car that I was driving developed a fault and needed to be replaced. It was replaced by the Team for a carburettor from a spare engine that had recently been rebuilt'. 'After the Festival Final the engine and carburettor was sealed'.

I am sure that if one does go down after it has been sealed, the scrutys will allow you to change the item under observation and the scrutys would want to check both carbs, and seal the new carb to the engine. Seems logical enough to everyone else?

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 14:29 (Ref:2597317)

technically i was not referring to that incident just highlighting a problem area for some thoughts
so it would seem reasonable to have 2 sets of seals then 1 for carbs 1 for motors and if u cant afford 2 small seals 1 large seal to do carb and motor!
I know the carb is a grey area i had carb problem at WHT it didnt work had it aprt rebuilt it didnt work borrowed someones carb ddnt work and i went racing with their carb - so how could you "police" the carb and If all carbs are sealed prior to a race meeting how could i rectify my problem quickly without having to find the Scrut to consent to a carb change
i accept im playing devils advocate

kartingdad · 10 Dec 2009, 14:59 (Ref:2597326)

If you have a spare carb, get it sealed at any time before you use it. Can be 6 months prior to event. no real problem.

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 15:43 (Ref:2597345)

fair point but who will seal it where and when?
will a Scrut be at every FFord event in UK?
WHERE DO YOU START AND STOP!!

kartingdad · 10 Dec 2009, 16:12 (Ref:2597355)

I think you will find a scrutineer at most race meetings.

I'm sure any scrutineer can apply a seal. As 99% of ff meetings are part of a championship, the relevant champ co ordinators would be happy to arrange voluntary sealing of parts for drivers, after all, it makes the champs better policed.

It would also be good to have as many bits as possible sealed at the start of the season, rather than at the end, so any infringements could be backdated to when the seals were applied.

It might make people a bit more careful what they bolt in to the back of their car, rather than run a hookey engine and 'have it freshened up' for the last race or two.

Also, I have a suspicion that its not the front runners that cheat, its the drivers who think that they have to cheat to keep up, or the ones who self build engines who are not compliant just through not being technically savvy enough to know they are not legal.
You know the sort, the lardy 40 odd year old who's self built engine in an old banger blitzes you down the straight only for the rusty exhaust to fall off on the first kerb.

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 18:30 (Ref:2597390)

jesus you have seen my car!!
ok i know what u mean i will be honest i have a similar view that self builders or guys running mid pack dont need to have proper legal motors as they are over weight limit/ unlikley to be checked as they will not get into top 6

it was why i said seal top 3 and 3 at random thru the grid
i will be present with mobil laundry service to wash stained underpants !!

kartingdad · 10 Dec 2009, 19:01 (Ref:2597402)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

i will be present with mobil laundry service to wash stained underpants !!

Its a dirty job and I suppose someone has to do it. I didn't know Mobil were involved. Is it just Mobil 1 you launder or do you do 2's as well?

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 22:37 (Ref:2597528)

can do fifty pound notes tens twentys as well
i dont wear under wear i go "commando" in case yr wondering!

delta · 10 Dec 2009, 22:45 (Ref:2597532)

We had an engine sealed a few years ago. Did you know that the driver has to inform the C of the C that he is competing with a sealed engine until the engine is checked . I had to do some work on the engine "valve clearance" we had to get a scrutineer to come over and watch me do the work then re seal the engine. Funny thing that engine never got checked after all that.

driftwood · 10 Dec 2009, 23:25 (Ref:2597562)

Ian i heard the motor was sealed to make you feel like yiou had a "fast" motor but ive seen yr driving and i can see why they never came back to check it!

delta · 11 Dec 2009, 18:55 (Ref:2598074)

.And a Merry Christmas to you Kev.

SAMD · 11 Dec 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2598151)

I have to say, thats quite funny guys. You are making me laugh.

driftwood · 11 Dec 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2598152)

Bah humbug!

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