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Old 31 May 2002, 21:08 (Ref:301883)   #1
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Did Chris Amon ever retire due to a driver error?

I don't think he ever did. Germany 68 springs to mind, but I think his suspension broke while he was in third. I think every retirement he had was due to something beond his control.

Poor poor Chris. Definitely the unluckiest driver in F1 history. (With the exception of Stefan Bellof and Roland Ratzenberger. RIP you two )
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Old 31 May 2002, 22:56 (Ref:301950)   #2
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According to forix, there are 7 possibilities.
You already tackled Germany 68.

This leaves as possible driver failures:
Germany 63 (Accident)
Italy 68 (Accident)
Netherlands 71 (spun off)
Germany 71 (Accident)
Belgium 76 (Accident)
Sweden 76 (Accident)
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Old 1 Jun 2002, 00:04 (Ref:302021)   #3
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It is inevitalbe that he would have tripped over somewhere along the line. Even Clark, Senna and Schumahcer make mistakes, so I imagine he went off sometime.

Chris Amon - shame he never one a GP, had he not stayed with his own team in the 70's, and gone to Brabham or Tyrrell, it's almost certain he would have wom at least one race. A great shame.
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Old 1 Jun 2002, 00:29 (Ref:302045)   #4
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
However, it's probably best he never won a race than only winning one. At least he's remembered for that!

He always seemed to join a team at the wrong time, leave a team at the wrong time or he just suffered appalling luck.
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Isn't he the guy who led most races without actually winning one?
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He won Le Mans!
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Ooh, now *there's* a case of team orders. Amon and McLaren winning 1966 in the GT40.
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Old 4 Jun 2002, 18:11 (Ref:304652)   #9
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No one took the bait, so here it is:

"At Le Mans, {Ken} Miles and co-driver Denny Hulme were miles ahead until ordered by publicity-conscious Ford executives to slow down for a dead heat. Inexplicably, Miles backed off at the flag, handing victory to Chris Amon and Bruce McLaren.

“To this day, I don’t know what happened,” says Carroll Smith, Shelby American’s team manager. “I was one of Ken’s closest friends, and he never talked to me about it.” "
-Ford 100

Apparently Ford wanted to get a photo op, but ACO told them (too late for them to change the orders) that if the cars crossed in a dead heat, the car that had travelled further (i.e. the one that qualified *worse*, hence had travelled the length of the pits as well as the race distance) would be declared the winner. Miles knew the rules, and was upset that his well-deserved win would be given away on team orders. He had been the GT40's main test driver since day 1... So he touched the brakes.
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Old 5 Jun 2002, 00:57 (Ref:304895)   #10
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I'm with F1manoz, he is remembered more for his not winning than if he had won just one or two.

He came close many times, and deserved to win many many races, nearly won Spa one year, in a dice with another driver where they went at it for the whole race, and was leading at Mountjuich Park and leading by a mile until he engine blew in 1968.

Amazing to think that a guy from this part of the world was driving for the likes of Ferrari, and getting paid for it, sure Brabham and Hulme were there too, but Brabham had his own team, although he was a Cooper driver prior to that.

For anyone interested on atlasf1.com in the Nostalgia forum there is a thread on 'Favourite Amon Stories', nealry 2000 posts as well.
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Old 5 Jun 2002, 11:23 (Ref:305161)   #11
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He did win a Grand Prix!
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He did win a Grand Prix!
He did I think but it was a race that was not actually in the world championship.

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