LM24 Le Mans 2015 Test Day - Page 11

**PascaLM** · 31 May 2015, 14:25 (Ref:3543400)

At each braking for the left at chicane Dunlop, the rear-left wheel of Nissan are blocked for 20 or 30 metres on the wet!

Truckosaurus · 31 May 2015, 14:34 (Ref:3543405)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

My biggest question is - and it might be slightly controversial - why do we even need a test day?

Not too controversial... Perhaps having a Test Weekend with running on both Saturday and Sunday would be beneficial for the teams for little extra cost.

Damian Baldi · 31 May 2015, 14:38 (Ref:3543407)

You can see the amount of damage on the Kolles car. Why Tiago didn't stop before damage the car? It was a tire explosion? It's a testing, there is no need to continue to the pits.

**PascaLM** · 31 May 2015, 14:47 (Ref:3543414)

Oil leak issue on Rebellions, risk of fire on turbos.

**PascaLM** · 31 May 2015, 14:53 (Ref:3543416)

67 in trap for the third time at Dunlop

**PascaLM** · 31 May 2015, 15:02 (Ref:3543419)

Porsche 19 on slick tires.

wolfhound · 31 May 2015, 15:07 (Ref:3543422)

Listening to Radio LM at the moment where they think that the track is 5 seconds slower than last year based on what the P2's and GTE cars are doing. That potentially means that sub 3:15 is realistic for pole and 3:13 an outside possibility.

Martin90 · 31 May 2015, 15:14 (Ref:3543426)

GTE's fastest is only marginally slower than last year's fastest during test day (less than a tenth) which isn't too bad given the weather.

2015 - 3:58.069
2014 - 3:57.982

Martin90 · 31 May 2015, 15:57 (Ref:3543438)

Red flag, probably ends the test day

Edit: apparently for debris, session won't be resumed.

Kpy · 31 May 2015, 16:10 (Ref:3543441)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

Not too controversial... Perhaps having a Test Weekend with running on both Saturday and Sunday would be beneficial for the teams for little extra cost.

The locals would not put up with the road closures on another Saturday.

Truckosaurus · 31 May 2015, 16:18 (Ref:3543445)

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Originally Posted by Kpy

The locals would not put up with the road closures on another Saturday.

What is the French for NIMBY? (pas dans mon jardin derriere)

Seriously, is it actually a problem locally? There seemed to be packed grandstands today so plenty of interest from a presumably local crowd.

Articus · 31 May 2015, 16:41 (Ref:3543457)

Pecking order seems to be Porsche>Audi>Toyota.

Speed trap times continue to be confusing but in line with last year. On the Porsche's quickest laps, the speed trap time was 300-310km/h. on the Toyota's quickest laps, the speed trap time was 295km/h. On the Audi's quickest laps, the speed trap time was 320-330km/h.

General speed trap time chart proved to be misleading as the best speed trap times don't correspond to the quickest laps in the LMP1 class (in contrast this is more likely in P2, GTE). I'd assume this has alot to do with the energy recovery and release strategy that each car employs on the faster laps.

GT6 · 31 May 2015, 16:44 (Ref:3543460)

Well missed the last two hours but seems not much changed.

Kpy · 31 May 2015, 16:45 (Ref:3543461)

Le Mans has a population of 145000(ish), most of whom do not benefit significantly from the 24 Hours. Road closures cause a load more problems on a Saturday, when shops are open on the trading estates down the Mulsanne. There was a huge fuss when the first Classic was announced for a weekend in September and it nearly didn't take place. That's why it's now held during a holiday period. An extra day's running on test weekend would also incur additional policing resources, paid for by the ACO.
As for the crowd in the stands today, a large slice of them have race tickets, so entry was free.

Simmi · 31 May 2015, 16:49 (Ref:3543467)

As I think a lot of people probably guessed beforehand we've come out of that test not really much the wiser.

Lots of questions. But I think in terms of relative performance over a lap the pecking order is what we expected. Toyota aren't as far away as they were on the time sheets. Neither are Nissan, albeit they had a troubled day.

Audi could still steal pole I reckon but the money has to be on Porsche. As for the race it's anyone's guess. Definitely still a lot of intrigue as to what lap time they can all get down to.

GT6 · 31 May 2015, 17:14 (Ref:3543473)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpy

Le Mans has a population of 145000(ish), most of whom do not benefit significantly from the 24 Hours. Road closures cause a load more problems on a Saturday, when shops are open on the trading estates down the Mulsanne. There was a huge fuss when the first Classic was announced for a weekend in September and it nearly didn't take place. That's why it's now held during a holiday period. An extra day's running on test weekend would also incur additional policing resources, paid for by the ACO.
As for the crowd in the stands today, a large slice of them have race tickets, so entry was free.

i am sure the 20 or 30 thousand people and the teams themselves do give a good lift to the local economy but i do understand that the distruption is not welcomed by everyone

Chuliandred · 31 May 2015, 17:21 (Ref:3543475)

Actually it is sad that nowdays all the complainers and loudest screamers are listened too much. How much could take place if it wasn't so inconvenient for some people which have to drive like 5 minutes more. Or even need to go shopping on friday and not on saturday... (or just a week later). The worst people are those who move close to something like a football stadium, or a racetrack, or even a kindergarden and then start to complain about the noise. And at least in Germany the often win the following court fights... Just sad.

Simmi · 31 May 2015, 17:47 (Ref:3543481)

It's all hypothetical but the last thing test day needs is to be extended.

I think it was Chiana who mooted it a while ago but maybe you could bring back the Le Mans "sprint" event around the Bugatti Circuit. Or hold some other support race around there to make it a bit more of an event. You wouldn't need to close any public roads for that.

**batmobile** · 31 May 2015, 18:15 (Ref:3543492)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpy

Le Mans has a population of 145000(ish), most of whom do not benefit significantly from the 24 Hours. Road closures cause a load more problems on a Saturday, when shops are open on the trading estates down the Mulsanne. There was a huge fuss when the first Classic was announced for a weekend in September and it nearly didn't take place. That's why it's now held during a holiday period. An extra day's running on test weekend would also incur additional policing resources, paid for by the ACO.
As for the crowd in the stands today, a large slice of them have race tickets, so entry was free.

I think you perfectly sum up the situation. Like everywhere it's not because you have a very great event that all the locals like it. GT6 is also right saying that the race gives a lift to the local economy. But in my circle ( family, professionnal...) not so much people like the 24 hours race. And generally all kinds of races. There are more people disturbed than people who take profit ( traffic, noise....). The Hunaudieres straight is a very important and busy road.
It is amazing but it is.

GT6 · 31 May 2015, 18:22 (Ref:3543495)

Eric, hope you did not get to wet today, was the test as good as last year? Next year i will be there, but just could not make it this year

**batmobile** · 31 May 2015, 18:54 (Ref:3543500)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Eric, hope you did not get to wet today, was the test as good as last year? Next year i will be there, but just could not make it this year

Well, not too wet but well damp. Not very interesting despite the very good times of Porsche and Audi. I think that with very good conditions we could have amazing times. Nissan didn't run so much I thought they would have run more for development. I know they perfomed the top speed but that's all, they played in the middle of the LMP2 grid. Amazing speeding up for Audi and Porsche. I wait for dry conditions to have another opinion but Toyota confirmed their Spa perfomance unless they kept their cards hidden. But for that I'm not convinced.

nobster · 31 May 2015, 19:20 (Ref:3543511)

Audi looks very strong again, not so sure about the Porsche win anymore...

**batmobile** · 31 May 2015, 20:39 (Ref:3543531)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobster

Audi looks very strong again, not so sure about the Porsche win anymore...

Yes but they push !

Martin90 · 31 May 2015, 21:31 (Ref:3543540)

Top speeds of today combined

#23 Nissan 336.0
#1 Toyota 334.9
#2 Toyota 333.9
#22 Nissan 333.9
#7 Audi 332.9
#8 Audi 332.9
#9 Audi 332.9
#12 Rebellion 328.8
#17 Porsche 326.8
#18 Porsche 325.8
#19 Porsche 325.8
#13 Rebellion 323.9

hcl123 · 31 May 2015, 23:58 (Ref:3543585)

For now far from the ~350 kmh needed to pass into the 3:18.

ok not conclusive, track conditions were never the best, but i wont be surprised if any of the old (new circuit format) Peugeot records will hold, qualy (3:18:8) or race (3:19:0).... or both...

Porsche the principal candidate to the records, punches off into straights very fast but lacks engine to hold above in those long straights, the grip is superb and if real DF wonder if they will not have the same tire issues as in Spa

The positive side is that FIA/ACO might be lighter on the ax for 2016.

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