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Alonso almost manages a lap of Spa before the Honda throws a wobbly..
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...ith-more-power
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It only inows which corners it has already taken, apparently, because of the driver's throttle usage pattern. Really? One might ask, from a couple of different perspectives, why they bother to have a driver at all. |
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I'm calling bs on the not lifting at all through Pouhon. Seriously, Hamilton (in the best car) set a lap record whilst downshifting through there. that's a big leap to going flat-out.
or you have to car setup to do that, and that's why cars are flying past you on the straight. |
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and several other sources. Maybe the Mercedes does the same thing but responds to a downshift as if it was a lift? There are also reports about Alonso saying the McLaren would be the fastest car if the engine had any power - but then working at F1 margins it might be easy to come up with a chassis that seems above excellent when underpowered but not so great when the power becomes available. Perhaps he is describing how things might be if they were different. If you see what I mean. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...ith-more-power |
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Its like taking something flat out with a moped that you couldn't take flat out with a GP bike.
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Honda says there were no issues with Alonso's engine, and are not sure why he retired.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/a...ne-spa-946201/ No issues?? |
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Well if it's true Fred parked a healthy car, I don't begrudge him, he's stuck with it a long time, there's only so much you can take
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If it's true, it's massively unprofessional. The team works long and hard to put that car out there, whatever its faults, and then the multi-million Euro superstar just decides he can't be bothered? Outrageous.
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"I'm at my highest value yet"
"I'm comfortably beating my rookie teammate, who was superfast in GP2" "I've never raced better" "In a better car, I'd win easily" "My car is what it is, I'm not bothered to just get a finish, what my team is desperate for" that's not even his radio messages, that's his press talk. all talking himself up, while degrading the others. It's Fernando Trump, I'm telling you. His radio messages this weekend were deplorable. he was talking bad about the car, the team, all race, but when théy try to give him usefull information it's: "no radio, all race, please" and "I don't care, really". I get that it's frustrating, but I don't see how he's making himself useful to the team that way. If you're gonna call this race a test, finish the damn test already. Give the team plenty of useful data. Or at least give your seat to someone who will do the job. |
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It is a little unprofessional to park it, but he does seem to make sure to compliment the chassis and team and did so in the media pen after retiring. I like to think he's making public shows like parking it and radio transmissions like "gp2 engine" to embarrass Honda, not the team.
I really hope McLaren field an IndyCar for him next year and bring him back to f1 if/when their car is competitive. Seems like any move to another team he makes will just end with that team in similar states while the McLaren Honda magically comes good. Seems his luck. |
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The situation for him sucks, but frankly he should suck it up. He knows the performance situation when he gets in the car, so how can he be so outraged on track? I guess someone can say he is just showing "passion" and being a "racer". I call it childish. Someone should bend him over their knee and give him a good spanking. I am sure McLaren is putting up with his antics just because they want to retain him. I would love to see him be successful in the car and to win again, but frankly I am tired of him. At this point, I don't care if he stays or leaves. Maybe this is because I also manage people and I wouldn't put up with that level of drama if I was his boss. Richard |
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It's always related to the Honda-part, never the McLaren-part. I am not convinced he 'just parked it'. The team knew he was coming in to park it, they were waiting for him in the pitlane. If there was nothing wrong, wouldn't they have asked him why? They have lots of telemetry, so I assume they too must have noticed something. Honda said they didn't find any issue in the engine. That may be true, but that doesn't exclude * that they may have failed to find the problem (even it that possibility is slim) * that there may have been another issue that wasn't engine-related (gearbox?, ....) but caused the engine to not perform like it should |
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they found nothing wrong other then the obvious and recurring multi season problems i assume.
question though about penalties for the next race...if you stop with an engine/gearbox problem does that result in a reduced penalty for the next race or does it make no difference given they are already over their season allotment? anyways mixed feeling about if he intentionally parked it or not. for sure there is an issue if a professional driver just gives up in a race like this but given whats going on with Honda im not sure i find 'intentionally parking' an unsurprising turn of events. on the other hand, i am more surprised that Honda were so quick to rule out an engine issue and failed to cover for Alonso and Mclaren...seems like ruling out an engine issue will only create more controversy, conspiracy and negative headlines for Honda. |
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* Vettel when his car isn't competitive (especially last year) * Hamilton when he thinks he is disadvantaged (see last year) * Verstappen (both father and son) when the Red Bull breaks down * Red Bull management against Renault (especially last year) * Grosjean That said, I'm not so sure I like the way these radio messages are transmitted. I think some are broadcast more often than other. Is that because of the 'drama' aspect, or just because the other don't ever say something that's worth making public? How many times do we hear: Hulkenberg, Ericsson, Wehrlein, Stroll, ... ? |
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Exactly that - the messages that are broadcast are the ones deemed best for the audience.....
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