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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 4 Jul 2017, 09:05 (Ref:3748845)   #501
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was a two year contract. Have you heard something?
No, but i'm just wondering how long she'll stick around if the results don't overly improve

WE all know how tough the series is, and how the Nissan's have never done much since 2013, but a driver of her pedigree, who has competed Internationally in open-wheelers, would surely have been expecting better results than she has gotten so far, and there's hardly looking like much hope they will improve much, they've been stuck in the same spot for 5 seasons effectively. How long will she stay interested?
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No, but i'm just wondering how long she'll stick around if the results don't overly improve

WE all know how tough the series is, and how the Nissan's have never done much since 2013, but a driver of her pedigree, who has competed Internationally in open-wheelers, would surely have been expecting better results than she has gotten so far, and there's hardly looking like much hope they will improve much, they've been stuck in the same spot for 5 seasons effectively. How long will she stay interested?
but we all also knew that the first year was going to be harder. As did Simona

I would expect there is some contractual issue there also, as effectively she was handed a scholarship
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Old 4 Jul 2017, 14:17 (Ref:3748898)   #503
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I feel like the Nissans have been on the improve this year.

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I would expect there is some contractual issue there also, as effectively she was handed a scholarship
Surely any manager worth his salt would have a performance clause in there?
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Old 4 Jul 2017, 22:55 (Ref:3748985)   #504
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Old 5 Jul 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3749046)   #505
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Certainly no performance clause in that contract the !!!
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Homesick? Had a better offer?
Regardless of if she is homesick, I think being a racer she will want to push though and keep with it. If she was to leave now she would have a terrible reputation I feel given how much both Australian and International media has hyped her up.
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No, but i'm just wondering how long she'll stick around if the results don't overly improve
Well it has taken Waters one full season (actually plus some races in 2015 plus two or three development series seasons!) to be competitive. It took Courtney at least 2 seasons to be competitive, same for Van Gisbergen, Whincup, Winterbottom.

Returning to the circuits next year will give a better indication.
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Regardless of if she is homesick, I think being a racer she will want to push though and keep with it. If she was to leave now she would have a terrible reputation I feel given how much both Australian and International media has hyped her up.
She left Indycar and Formula E with results not much better than she is achieving now?

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Well it has taken Waters one full season (actually plus some races in 2015 plus two or three development series seasons!) to be competitive. It took Courtney at least 2 seasons to be competitive, same for Van Gisbergen, Whincup, Winterbottom..
Given she comes form an international pedigree, I think her sights on competitiveness are set a little higher than whatever the likes of Cam Waters, SVG, Whincup or Winterbottom were happy with for season one.

I'll take your Courtney point though

They hyped her signing prior to the start of the year, rookie season or not, the casual fan (who they are targeting to appeal to) is only interested in results.
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Old 9 Jul 2017, 01:30 (Ref:3749691)   #509
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Given she comes form an international pedigree, I think her sights on competitiveness are set a little higher than whatever the likes of Cam Waters, SVG, Whincup or Winterbottom were happy with for season one.

I'll take your Courtney point though

They hyped her signing prior to the start of the year, rookie season or not, the casual fan (who they are targeting to appeal to) is only interested in results.
How long did it take for Simona to get results in Indy car, I could almost bet she didn't have much success in her first or second year. I am giving it time, I think she can get results and to be honest Nissan haven't started the season overly well but are slowly picking up
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They hyped her signing prior to the start of the year, rookie season or not, the casual fan (who they are targeting to appeal to) is only interested in results.
8 x extra bonus rookie test days with brand new Dunlop tyres for SdS you say?

With the limited testing (on used tyres! how unhelpful) and unusual spool differential, it's not surprising it takes time to become competitive.
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So... will Mr Moffat stay st GRM next season? Mr Rogers came out in the press recently to suggest it is a possibility, however other noise has the team looking at some younger talent currently in the Super2 series. And no, not currently in any of the cars he has run there.
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How about Courtney? Shouldn't Courtney (a good driver IMO) be on the move to be a better team?

I think it is strange that 888 retained Lowndes, instead of signing Courtney to the Caltex car.
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I think it is strange that 888 retained Lowndes, instead of signing Courtney to the Caltex car.
I'm not sure that is strange at all, Lowndes is still one of the most liked and marketable drivers on the grid, despite his qualifying not being what he'd like it to be.
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How about Courtney? Shouldn't Courtney (a good driver IMO) be on the move to be a better team?

I think it is strange that 888 retained Lowndes, instead of signing Courtney to the Caltex car.
Courtney is under contract for next year, he signed having full understanding where the team was at, so would struggle to gain a release
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I'm not sure that is strange at all, Lowndes is still one of the most liked and marketable drivers on the grid, despite his qualifying not being what he'd like it to be.
Correct.

You could almost guarentee that if Lowndes didn't re-sign, the #888 car would look very different next year, in terms of branding on it.

Not sure what decent seats are available next year, as many drivers signed multi-year contracts at the start of this season. Mr Moffat would be unwise to venture elsewhere at this point. I probably wouldn't even include the two LDM seats as part of the silly season at this point, particularly with regards to drivers already in the maingame. Unless there's a change of management and a significant cash injection...
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So... will Mr Moffat stay st GRM next season? Mr Rogers came out in the press recently to suggest it is a possibility, however other noise has the team looking at some younger talent currently in the Super2 series. And no, not currently in any of the cars he has run there.
Where does that leave Golding if Moffat stays?
And if Lowndes leaves 888, I'd imagine Roland would sell or lease out the 3rd rec rather than run someone else in the Caltex car.
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Where does that leave Golding if Moffat stays?
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Where does that leave Golding if Moffat stays?
Presumably Super2... where he should have been this year.

Hard to see how Mr Rogers hasn't had to dip into his own pocket to keep the wheels turning this year. The GRM cars have some stickers, but lots of blank spaces.. and no motor manufacturer to show up with free engines and other support
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It was hard to understand where Mr Barbera fit into the grand scheme of things, until non-core GRM branding showed up on the #99 car for Townsville.
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Didn't seem like full car sponsorship (i.e. $$) from IOR either..
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How about Courtney? Shouldn't Courtney (a good driver IMO) be on the move to be a better team?

I think it is strange that 888 retained Lowndes, instead of signing Courtney to the Caltex car.
Roland has no interest in Courtney, James is getting older and if Craig was to retire then Roland I'd say would bring up a younger person, he'd be on the search for someone like Waters, I'd even say if Lowndes did leave this year when people were speculating (thankfully he didn't) I'd say Roland was even looking at Dave as a back up. Reynolds has shown with Erebus he is no failed talent, PRA gave him up too early and they are paying for it, I don't think last season was a lack of funding as Edwards claimed because if it was they would still be going backwards. It was a simple fact that PRA didn't have the experience of Dave and Frosty working with Cam and Chaz. PRA wont admit it but that's how it pretty much is. 2015 they had a good combination with all 4 drivers and then blew it last year, as PRA always does (I'm a PRA fan too but they aren't known for being smart)
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Where does that leave Golding if Moffat stays?
And if Lowndes leaves 888, I'd imagine Roland would sell or lease out the 3rd rec rather than run someone else in the Caltex car.
I dare say he would have. I said Roland could have been looking at the likes of Reynolds, Waters or Mostert but reality is Roland only started that third REC for Craig and has let the public know a number of times. Caltex want Craig so if James was to go to triple at they would lose Caltex along with a number of other sponsors under Craig. When one of the two, Craig or Jamie step back to co driver duties Triple 8 you would almost expect will be two car again. I wonder if SVG is going to play the bored or homesick card again if DJRTP become the major powerhouse with Triple 8 second best for 3 to 5th placings.
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Reynolds has shown with Erebus he is no failed talent, PRA gave him up too early and they are paying for it, I don't think last season was a lack of funding as Edwards claimed because if it was they would still be going backwards. It was a simple fact that PRA didn't have the experience of Dave and Frosty working with Cam and Chaz. PRA wont admit it but that's how it pretty much is. 2015 they had a good combination with all 4 drivers and then blew it last year, as PRA always does (I'm a PRA fan too but they aren't known for being smart)
PRA wanted to keep Dave but there was no sponsor coverage, with Waters banging on the door and Monster $$ waiting. Reynolds wasnt "given up".
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Triple Eight won't want Reynolds, for the same reasons they showed no interest in Mr Murphy - unable to communicate what the car is doing to the engineering group.

The likes of Whincup, Lowndes, and van Gisbergen, will spend hours and hours going over the data, and offer corner-by-corner analysis of a lap. Ambrose used to be the same, however he soon discovered he'd lost that part of his driving when he made his comeback.
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Stanaway quits Europe for Supercars

Will be interesting to see where he might fit

I think ideally a Dunlop drive, combined with wildcards and an enduro drive At (PRA) is the most likely fit
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