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View Poll Results: Will Lada be in the WTCC in 2008?
Yes! (Send for my psychiatrist!) 1 2.94%
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It's not an ordinary rabbit, it's a killer! 7 20.59%
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy! 6 17.65%
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Old 10 Jun 2008, 15:59 (Ref:2224937)   #201
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helgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Of course,Alex Duducalo was faster in Superturism,but he had a fantastic Lucoil Lada 2110 running alongside with Scilla at the front.
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Old 14 Jun 2008, 10:46 (Ref:2228324)   #202
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Brno Free Practice 2 Results:

Lagen finished 20th (7th indepedent) in front of Tarquini and Thompson and Shapovalov finished 25th (10th indepedent)

http://dnl.fiawtcc.com/results/15188/result_225384.pdf

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Old 18 Jun 2008, 20:50 (Ref:2232202)   #203
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It seems that the problem with the homologation conformity will be finally solved until Estoril evant in mid-July. According to Mr Shapovalov, leader of "Russian Bears Motorsport":
At the moment, we, together with AvtoVAZ compiled and collected all the necessary documents and in the next stage of World Championship, we will be full participants in setoff of independent teams.

See: http://www.russianbearsmotorsport.co...elease286.html
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Old 19 Jun 2008, 11:47 (Ref:2232557)   #204
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Test times don't tell much...
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Old 22 Jun 2008, 09:32 (Ref:2234536)   #205
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But... They've failed their exam with the engine again.
Not quite true... they paid for engines and were supplied units that conform to old specs not the 2008 ones...

The Lada boys could not have known that their engines would not have been kosher... hopefully, it'll all be fixed by Estoril because they are actually making progress, setting up the wholly unsorted cars at the races...
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Old 22 Jun 2008, 19:57 (Ref:2234998)   #206
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Well,it would be great, if they continue growing. Great for the championship,great for Russian autosport.
I wonder if AvtoVAZ decides to move their new Priora on the European racing arena.
Of course,Russian championships are in huge 'regress' now.But there's a hope for better future. Russian+Finland f3 championship will help our young pilots to learn and work hard. And new tracks are being built at last! In fact,we could have 3 different circuits + road tracks + airfield races championship.But.There some problems between ADM and Russian Autosport Federation. And Redring is far from Central Region and teams have now enough money to go there. But autosport fans in Russia, I think, can be optimistic now. Three race tracks are being built. They say WTCC,DTM,FIA GT and even sportprototypes are interested in Russia.
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Old 23 Jun 2008, 10:11 (Ref:2235542)   #207
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According to ladanews.ru, mr Владислав Незванкин, head of sports cars of AVTOVAZ commented about the Lada appearance in WTCC after the Valencia race:
I think that for the first time the results are quite acceptable. Now we are considering the possibility to send our experts to help "Russian Bears" in the other stages of the WTCC. And, of course, we hope that the leadership of AVTOVAZ assesses prospects for the participation of a professional team with a factory prepared car in the world championship. (translated from russian)

Additionally the Lada 110 2.0 WTCC will be presented officially by AVTOVAZ at the 2008 Motorshow of Moscow in August next to the other racing and rally versions of Lada cars.
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Old 7 Jul 2008, 08:11 (Ref:2246067)   #208
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WTCC: Lada allowed to score points in WTCC The two Lada 110 of Russan Bears Motorsport have been declared eligible to score points in the World Touring Car Championship. Drivers Jaap van lagen and Viktor Shapovalov have not been able to score points in the three previous races that they have taken part in. This was because the intake and outlet ports of the cylinder heads were not conform to the homologation form.
By Johan Meissner Monday, 07 July 2008 08:49 CET

Lada have now amended the Group N homologation form of the Lada 110. Because of this the car is according the rules and the FIA Touring Car Bureau have decided to allow the cars to score points in the Independents and Team-championship of the WTCC.
Can anyone explain Homologation?

Great news for Lada hopefully they get a factory team for 2009.
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Old 7 Jul 2008, 12:27 (Ref:2246288)   #209
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Can anyone explain Homologation?
Put in very simple terms, the manufacturer provides a series of technical specifications and drawing describing the exact size/weight/dimensions of the car. For production based formula they may also be required to prove that the minimum number of road cars have been built to that exact specification.

In the case of S2000 they can also homolgate a kit of parts used in the race car but not used on the equivalent road car.

Any race cars or any parts used on a race car must conform to the exact specification provided in the homolgation forms.
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Old 7 Jul 2008, 21:52 (Ref:2246721)   #210
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I'm just chuffed they're now allowed to score points, they haven't been the embarrasment a lot of people expected and they deserve to be able to show how they've done with a points tally.
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Old 8 Jul 2008, 09:14 (Ref:2246940)   #211
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I'm just chuffed they're now allowed to score points, they haven't been the embarrasment a lot of people expected and they deserve to be able to show how they've done with a points tally.
Their performance has nothing to do with the fact they are not able to score points.
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Old 8 Jul 2008, 09:25 (Ref:2246947)   #212
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If Lotti really wants to hold Moscow road race in 2009,it won't be a surprise to see Lada works team next year.
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Old 8 Jul 2008, 09:29 (Ref:2246951)   #213
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If Lotti really wants to hold Moscow road race in 2009,it won't be a surprise to see Lada works team next year.
You mean at that new track? (see your post in the sports car forum)


Isn't Russia an important market for Chevrolet and BMW?
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Old 8 Jul 2008, 11:43 (Ref:2247054)   #214
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Put in very simple terms, the manufacturer provides a series of technical specifications and drawing describing the exact size/weight/dimensions of the car. For production based formula they may also be required to prove that the minimum number of road cars have been built to that exact specification.

In the case of S2000 they can also homolgate a kit of parts used in the race car but not used on the equivalent road car.

Any race cars or any parts used on a race car must conform to the exact specification provided in the homolgation forms.
I see thankyou for that concise explanation.

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I'm just chuffed they're now allowed to score points, they haven't been the embarrasment a lot of people expected and they deserve to be able to show how they've done with a points tally.
Absolutely i cant wait to see them when they actually racing for something and can be included in points.
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Their performance has nothing to do with the fact they are not able to score points.

I'm well aware of that fact.
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According TCT LADA is allowed to score points:
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It's going to be a city WTCC race in Moscow. Building of that FIA GT track hasn't been started yet..
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The Lada project is for three years?

Yes it is! This year is only testing and next year we would like to have a new car. When we would have the new model we also would have more technical support from Lada. They want to change their image and for Lada the WTCC is a good base to show what they want to be in the future.

Where do you get the budget from for car? Do you pay all the bills on your own?

No, no! We have some rich sponsors from Russia who want to support us because they love this sport. We are working with 15 people in the team. They all come from Russia. Jaap is the only one who is from another country. It was very difficult for him at the beginning but now it is working ok. And we also have support from England for the engine.
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So it looks like Shapalov is serious with this project.

I hope the new model becomes reality.

I assume it's this car:
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I think the new WTCC model will be based on Lada Priora (Lada 2170 in Europe) and below you can find two photos:





For more visit http://priora.lada-auto.ru/ (in russian)
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Old 31 Aug 2008, 13:30 (Ref:2278719)   #220
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I think if they want to change their image they nwill use the car from FIRE's post. The Priora in Yannis's post looks worse then the car they are using now!
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I especially love how fast the Priora is going in that second picture without a driver and with the handbrake still on
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I think if they want to change their image they nwill use the car from FIRE's post. The Priora in Yannis's post looks worse then the car they are using now!
Obviously the first car seems and is better (2007 Lada Project C or Lada 2116) but it's still a prototype. The Lada Priora is already in production and actually it's based on the Lada 110.
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Old 31 Aug 2008, 17:32 (Ref:2278849)   #223
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Have to agree with sniper, the Priora is ugly whereas the black above looks pretty nice. They should probably keep the one they have until they can use the 2116(?)
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Guys, who cares what you think of the looks of it?

If its the next generation, Lada will launch a racecar of it.
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Guys, who cares what you think of the looks of it?

If its the next generation, Lada will launch a racecar of it.
Well, because to some of us the looks are important as well? Just because you don't care about the looks don't assume others don't either
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