Porsche unveil 2007 RS Spyder (for customers) - Page 2

Bernard Bram · 1 Oct 2006, 07:09 (Ref:1724113)

Only if there's somebody who wants to pay for it.

The Badger · 2 Oct 2006, 22:02 (Ref:1725698)

Nicer headlights on the new beast .

Whose rumoured to be getting their hands on them ?

Sebah , Del Bello , Petersen , Cirtek , Krohn , AJR ?

Fogelhund · 3 Oct 2006, 01:05 (Ref:1725829)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Nicer headlights on the new beast .

Whose rumoured to be getting their hands on them ?

Sebah , Del Bello , Petersen , Cirtek , Krohn , AJR ?

Just Sebah, due to their website.

Nobody else has so much as hinted yet.

**Bentley03** · 3 Oct 2006, 17:41 (Ref:1726735)

DSC have been able to shed some light on the Sebah/RS Spyder situation:

There is a desire for Sebah to move into prototypes. They have been looking into the possibility for the last 18 months. The preferred option is quite definitely to put together a 2007 RS Spyder programme. There have been talks between Sebah and Porsche personnel and Sebah are working flat out to make it happen. But, as is so often the case, it will depend upon Hugh Hayden finding the necessary funding for the project. So, nothing concrete, but the desire (as is so often the case) is definitely there.

XJR14/WSC95 · 4 Oct 2006, 12:35 (Ref:1727577)

It will be interesting to see if the private teams will be allowed to develop and modify there customer RS Spyders just as the teams of the 80's developed and modified there 956's and 962's or will there be a strict Audi like ban on modifications?

Fieldgate · 4 Oct 2006, 16:20 (Ref:1727800)

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Originally Posted by Bernard Bram

Only if there's somebody who wants to pay for it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. For all Hugh's good intentions, relationships with Porsche etc - the quote is the proverbial "dipping a toe in the water and seeing if anything bites".

If you can find €4m and Porsche like you, you're probably on to a winner, but how many of those opportunities are there out there ?

JAG · 4 Oct 2006, 17:24 (Ref:1727856)

ACO regs say no major modifications I believe.

Tone · 5 Oct 2006, 00:29 (Ref:1728194)

Seen 3 different figure now..1.25M Euros + VAT, €2.3M and €4M..

€2.3\4M sound too much..

XJR14/WSC95 · 5 Oct 2006, 04:37 (Ref:1728362)

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Originally Posted by JAG

ACO regs say no major modifications I believe.

Tell that to Pescarolo Sport!!

canam · 5 Oct 2006, 08:14 (Ref:1728464)

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Originally Posted by XJR14/WSC95

Tell that to Pescarolo Sport!!

If the car is homolgated as a Pescarolo, then they can do what they want--pretty much. Creation did the same thing--otherwise they may have had to go back to Zytek to 'approve' any changes. I have heard that Dyson goes to Lola for any mods.

I think it is no longer possible to do what was done in the Group C days and before. The ACO is very concerend over safety (both driver and spectator) and wants to be sure the proper procedures have been implemented when changing the base structure of the car.

In the case of Porsche, I can see the factory working with its 'chosen few' to develop the car. Whatever changes are to be made, they will have to be approved by the factory.

Fieldgate · 5 Oct 2006, 10:05 (Ref:1728585)

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Originally Posted by Tone

Seen 3 different figure now..1.25M Euros + VAT, €2.3M and €4M..€2.3\4M sound too much..

1.25 (+VAT) is the price of a car

the next gaps are a) engine; b) gearbox, c) spares package, d) a team to run it, e) tyres 'n stuff, f) decent pedellar or 3

For Sebring, LMS and the 24 - actually, I think I'll revise that number up to €4.5 - 5m

Hence, me no think many RS Spyders in private hands.....

mariantic · 5 Oct 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1728786)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fieldgate

1.25 (+VAT) is the price of a car

Hence, me no think many RS Spyders in private hands.....

Autosport today are saying £1Million (1,480,930.69 EUR

) to include 2 years technical support & about the same again to run a full LMS/LM season.

Sounds reasonable...

(Autosport are also saying Team Modena, Juan Barazi & ASM are "potential customers")

Mariantic

Tone · 5 Oct 2006, 17:22 (Ref:1729057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fieldgate

1.25 (+VAT) is the price of a car

the next gaps are a) engine; b) gearbox, c) spares package, d) a team to run it, e) tyres 'n stuff, f) decent pedellar or 3

For Sebring, LMS and the 24 - actually, I think I'll revise that number up to €4.5 - 5m

Hence, me no think many RS Spyders in private hands.....

Sounds like other info posted about someone who has been looking at running one..

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...11692&f=48&h=0

gwyllion · 12 Oct 2006, 15:30 (Ref:1736321)

Penske will be run 2 cars in ALMS next year. Le Mans is not mentioned at all.

source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/55113

Fogelhund · 12 Oct 2006, 19:12 (Ref:1736506)

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/alms/33274/

Quote:

Penske added that the team will once again forgo the 24 Hours of Le Mans – where a revamped version of the RS Spyder will be available to customer teams for the first time – focusing exclusively on the ALMS calendar.

Tim Northcutt · 12 Oct 2006, 19:37 (Ref:1736534)

Penske isn't going to Le Mans because his IRL program races in four of the five June weekends next season....

June 3 - Milwaukee
June 9 - Texas
June 24 - Iowa
June 30 - Richmond

His team gets $1 million for winning the season championship...

Three of those are short tracks where they usually have success and the month of June hosts 25% of the IRL's currently announced season....

It all comes down to paydays and the big payoff at the end of the season...money talks

jhansen · 12 Oct 2006, 19:49 (Ref:1736543)

Not that I'm doubting your input Tim, but your statement implies that the LMP2 teams share peronsal and equipment with the IRL team. Is that the case, or are they separate teams?

Tim Northcutt · 12 Oct 2006, 19:53 (Ref:1736548)

It is my understanding that they have some key personnel that do pull double-duty...

I believe Tim Cindric is one of them...

Also, Roger is always in the pit box for the IRL team when they race...even on conflicting weekends...He was Sam Hornish's race strategist

veeten · 12 Oct 2006, 21:34 (Ref:1736631)

not to mention that he'll be getting a pair of the new chassis to run for '07.

just another example from his book, " The Unfair Advantage".

AU N EGL · 12 Oct 2006, 22:07 (Ref:1736648)

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Originally Posted by Tim Northcutt

Penske . . .

His team gets $1 million for winning the season championship...

My guess is it would cost Penske racing at least $1 million to go to Lemans.

JAG · 12 Oct 2006, 23:28 (Ref:1736685)

Why would Penske pay, aren't Porsche funding the operation.

Surely the reason Penske aren't going to Le Mans is because Porache don't want to square upto Audi and Peugeot, as a factory team, with a P2 car.

cmk · 13 Oct 2006, 01:22 (Ref:1736720)

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Originally Posted by veeten

not to mention that he'll be getting a pair of the new chassis to run for '07.

just another example from his book, " The Unfair Advantage".

But the new chassis is the customer chassis too, so it's not an advantage in that respect. I don't think anyone is ever going to race the old chassis again since it's not "customer-suitable" according to Porsche. One season plus one race will be all she wrote for it.

Penske may have an "unfair advantage" in budget and factory support, but I suggest because of that the factory had a say in no Le Mans. Gotta keep the customers happy...unless there are no customers!

veeten · 16 Oct 2006, 00:57 (Ref:1738815)

it is when you have full knowledge of it from it's predecessor, most of which came from Penske Racing both during this past season and the testing & development stages.

The reasons for Penske not running at Le Mans were his alone, as much of the month will be taken up with his Indy & NASCAR teams. He basically won't have much time to be jetting 'cross the Atlantic.

zac510 · 16 Oct 2006, 09:18 (Ref:1739019)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Surely the reason Penske aren't going to Le Mans is because Porache don't want to square upto Audi and Peugeot, as a factory team, with a P2 car.

There's always going to be that comparison, factory team or not. But I agree with you and others.. Why wouldn't Porsche want to be there?
Is Penske pulling out of LeMans enough for Porsche to cancel their contract? LeMans is everything for Porsche!

gwyllion · 16 Oct 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1739255)

The revised RS Spyder did its first test drive:
http://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsand...r/enhancement/

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