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Old 24 Nov 2004, 22:18 (Ref:1163270)   #51
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K Motorsport owned by Tom Kristensen?
I'm not sure, but his younger brother has been racing for them in the Hondas in DTC and I think his dad has been involved in the team too.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 10:05 (Ref:1163615)   #52
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Strikes me that if the organisers are trying to run a World Touring Car championship then we might see a few more Japanese manufacturers...
The JAS Hondas have been so unsuccesful they clearly have no factory backing. I see the Toyota rumour above but I think their focus is NASCAR for now.
Anyone heard rumours of anyone else testing appropriate cars we don't currently have on the list?
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 11:28 (Ref:1163688)   #53
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Great list FIRE - makes it easier to keep track of the status.

One note though: You can update Crawford Racing and remove Göransson and Edman. Edman was confirmed at Peugeot in the DTC about a week ago and Göransson was confirmed at BMW in STCC (to defend his 2004 title) just the other day.

Speaking of Göransson, he would deserve something better than an independent backmarker-team if he were to go to the WTCC at some point in the future - IMHO, of course

Rustad, on the other hand, could certainly end up in the WTCC - Team Opel Sweden and Rustad haven't announced their plans for 2005 yet.

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Old 25 Nov 2004, 14:42 (Ref:1163915)   #54
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Aiello has signed for another year in DTM, so he will not be driving the Chevrolet.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 16:02 (Ref:1163986)   #55
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Ford has announced that the German Hotfiel Sport team will run two of its new Ford Focus touring cars in the revived World Touring Car Championship next year.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 16:52 (Ref:1164045)   #56
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Prodrive eyes Honda dealHonda and Prodrive could link up for a new programme in the World Touring Car Championship, in the wake of the early end to the British company's management contract with BAR.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 17:04 (Ref:1164065)   #57
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Prodrive eyes Honda dealHonda and Prodrive could link up for a new programme in the World Touring Car Championship, in the wake of the early end to the British company's management contract with BAR.
I think JAS is not happy with Prodrive plans. Is Prodrive hoping to race in 2005 or 2006 with Honda in WTCC?
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 17:49 (Ref:1164133)   #58
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There are a few more rumours I discovered:

Schnitzer: maybe Andy Priaulx will move to Schnitzer, with BMW GB support, as third driver;

RBM: without Priaulx, Mampaey's team could run Kurt Mollekens under the BMW Belgium Luxembourg banner for the entire season

Ravaglia: also BMW Italy Spain could start next season with a three car team, wih Garcia, Zanardi and a third driver, maybe Luca Rangoni

Schubert: There are interests from the team which is looking for the budget; drivers Claudia Hürtgen and Thomas Winkelhock, running for the Indy Cup

Weichers: like Schubert, they could be in WTCC with Marc Hennerici, in the Indy Cup

Dynamics: they could move to WTCC with Matt Neal

ALFA ROMEO

Autodelta: they will line up Tarquini and Thompson... Giovanardi is linked with Maserati

Satellite Team or Autodelta: the will run other two cars, one for Farfus and another one for a young driver, maybe Tavano.

Indipendent: there could be some team (from 147 cup) with old cars (either GTA and TS); maybe Sebastian Grunert as driver. No news about Oregon.

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GR Asia: there is a possibility that they will run old Toledos in the Indy Cup

SEAT Italia: they are interested into Italian Superturismo Championship, if it really happened.

CHEVROLET

RML: Alain Menu confirmed, and two seats available.. names are Larini, Dumbreck, Aiello and also Plato & Huff

HONDA

JAS: Alessandro Balzan is gone, the only name is Romanini, but there could be 2 or 3 Accords on the grid

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Hotfiel: they will run 2 new Focus, drivers among Klenke, Asch, Bernhardt and Funke

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Statoil: Magnussen and another driver for the Danish Team with the 407 and maybe another team with two 407; possibility of some 307s running in the Indy trophy
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 17:53 (Ref:1164136)   #59
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KSO is also planning an Eurocup, with a single race format like the old World Cup, in Brno, for drivers with S2000 cars from all national championship
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 18:10 (Ref:1164149)   #60
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This last post has very good info. Thanks.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 20:53 (Ref:1164287)   #61
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There are a few more rumours I discovered:

Schnitzer: maybe Andy Priaulx will move to Schnitzer, with BMW GB support, as third driver;

RBM: without Priaulx, Mampaey's team could run Kurt Mollekens under the BMW Belgium Luxembourg banner for the entire season
IMO RBM did a great job so why change? Is Schnitzer jalous about the fact Priaulx took te title with "private" RBM team?
Would be great to see Mollekens back, but I am afraid he hasn't enough budget.


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Schubert: There are interests from the team which is looking for the budget; drivers Claudia Hürtgen and Thomas Winkelhock, running for the Indy Cup
With help from Carly Motors? (They prepare already the engines for Schubert)
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 20:55 (Ref:1164290)   #62
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KSO is also planning an Eurocup, with a single race format like the old World Cup, in Brno, for drivers with S2000 cars from all national championship
IMO it would also great to see a S2000 endurance race. Around 3...6 hours and 2 drivers share a car.
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 13:30 (Ref:1164837)   #63
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www.italiaracing.net says Gianni Morbidelli is on drivers list to drive with Chevy.
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 13:35 (Ref:1164843)   #64
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As do Autosport..
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 14:08 (Ref:1164867)   #65
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IMO it would also great to see a S2000 endurance race. Around 3...6 hours and 2 drivers share a car.
Hmmm...what about reliability :confused:. In Polish Endurance Championship (3 hours) one guy drove Audi A4 , and he has had troubles during all season, exeptc one race in heavy rain. Of course, Audi is old and it's not prepared extremly well. But 6 hours can be too much even for top prepared S 2000 straight from the factory.
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I assume for endurance racing, the works teams would use a special version of their engines, like they did with ST back in the late 90s?
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 18:09 (Ref:1165051)   #67
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now is official: Larini is the second driver for Chevy: http://www.italiaracing.net/news_FIA...ws.asp?id=3424
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 18:30 (Ref:1165071)   #68
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now is official: Larini is the second driver for Chevy: http://www.italiaracing.net/news_FIA...ws.asp?id=3424
Indeed, see the english press release here:

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With Chevrolet racing the Nubira, the car is just perfect for an American audience, but sadly, no NA race dates have been announced? I wonder if the '06 DTM effort was sacrificed for the WTCC effort.
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Old 27 Nov 2004, 09:46 (Ref:1165502)   #70
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The Chevrolet Nubria isn't being sold as a Chevrolet in the US. I think it's being sold as a Suzuki and isn't that popular while it is popular in Mexico where we do have a round...
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The Chevrolet Nubria isn't being sold as a Chevrolet in the US. I think it's being sold as a Suzuki and isn't that popular while it is popular in Mexico where we do have a round...
I think it's Daewoo rather than Suzuki..?
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But 6 hours can be too much even for top prepared S 2000 straight from the factory.
Hmmm, they can even finish in the 24 hours of the Nürburgring. This Car was prepared by Engstler Motorsport and finished this years 24 hours at the Ring. I thought this car was very close to the S 2000 cars.

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I think it's Daewoo rather than Suzuki..?
Nope, its called Suzuki Forenza.

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Hmmm, they can even finish in the 24 hours of the Nürburgring. This Car was prepared by Engstler Motorsport and finished this years 24 hours at the Ring. I thought this car was very close to the S 2000 cars.
Would the factories produce a special endurance version of the engine like they did in the ST year? Didn't BMW use a special engine for their Bathurst entries in the late nineties?
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The Chevrolet Nubria isn't being sold as a Chevrolet in the US. I think it's being sold as a Suzuki and isn't that popular while it is popular in Mexico where we do have a round...
Oh yeah, I forgot that Nubira is sold only in Canada as the Chevrolet Epica. In the US, it appears only as the Suzuki Verona and not under a Chevrolet brand.
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