V8 Supercars Blinked First?

Casper · 7 Jul 2015, 04:17 (Ref:3556361)

How many saw this coming if indeed it happens at all

http://www.speedcafe.com/2015/07/06/...-12-hour-deal/

D.R.T. · 7 Jul 2015, 04:24 (Ref:3556364)

For the sake of Australian Motorsport - we have all got our fingers crossed this doesn't eventuate

peckstar · 7 Jul 2015, 04:29 (Ref:3556368)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

For the sake of Australian Motorsport - we have all got our fingers crossed this doesn't eventuate

I dont! Hoping it will happen. take a poorly attended little race into the big time like it deserves

however Casper, much discussion in the 12 hour thread, which in 3 posts so far here 2 are just a rehash of the discussion over there.
And funnily enough those that are always talking down the v8 series are talking this down when it quite possibly will be a good thing thus the thought is being discusssed

bluesport · 7 Jul 2015, 09:04 (Ref:3556416)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

For the sake of Australian Motorsport - we have all got our fingers crossed this doesn't eventuate

Agree, supercars is a crap category, we need decent alternatives.

Casper · 7 Jul 2015, 13:29 (Ref:3556478)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

I dont! Hoping it will happen. take a poorly attended little race into the big time like it deserves

however Casper, much discussion in the 12 hour thread, which in 3 posts so far here 2 are just a rehash of the discussion over there.
And funnily enough those that are always talking down the v8 series are talking this down when it quite possibly will be a good thing thus the thought is being discusssed

It hasn't happened yet, people are getting ahead of themselves whether that be critical or hopeful that it might happen. The greatest driver for it to happen is most probably TV as Foxtel has learned to its cost that the take up is way below expectations and V8 SC can only value add for the next round of negotiations by bringing something else to the table. Of course it is going to be discussed in both places as it has been a discussion that affects both categories calendars and competitiors. I was told today of other bombshells that may explode in Oz motorsport as well so interesting times ahead, sorry but I am not free to expand on that but do not be surprised at anything that might happen.

EfiOz · 9 Jul 2015, 01:57 (Ref:3556893)

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I dont! Hoping it will happen. take a poorly attended little race into the big time like it deserves

Then you should be hoping for Mr Ratel to call. Otherwise, you may be quite disappointed.

peckstar · 9 Jul 2015, 02:05 (Ref:3556897)

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Then you should be hoping for Mr Ratel to call. Otherwise, you may be quite disappointed.

Isnt that the intention here

FAS33 · 9 Jul 2015, 11:22 (Ref:3556964)

they're ruining the best racing series in the world.

D.R.T. · 9 Jul 2015, 12:52 (Ref:3556983)

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they're ruining the best racing series in the world.

According to themselves

FAS33 · 9 Jul 2015, 21:32 (Ref:3557126)

According to the World.

Mixer · 10 Jul 2015, 05:04 (Ref:3557206)

What was interesting is the lack of a denial from B12Hr camp...

one five five · 10 Jul 2015, 08:48 (Ref:3557234)

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What was interesting is the lack of a denial from B12Hr camp...

Yeehah were very quiet all through the 2014/15 clash BS, so on one hand a lack of denial could mean nothing.... my senses are telling me different though and there is much more truth in this than fiction

Mr Warburton being reported in the Financial Review out with a 7 head talking motorsport could be the smoking gun.

Mixer · 10 Jul 2015, 08:50 (Ref:3557235)

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Mr Warburton being reported in the Financial Review out with a 7 head talking motorsport could be the smoking gun.

That was after the initial leak.

peckstar · 21 Jul 2015, 04:37 (Ref:3559930)

even though its an immature thread title this probably belongs here

Bathurst 12 Hour deal just the start for V8s

Deal for 12 hour possibly done this week

D.R.T. · 21 Jul 2015, 05:30 (Ref:3559934)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

even though its an immature thread title this probably belongs here

Bathurst 12 Hour deal just the start for V8s

Deal for 12 hour possibly done this week

That would be a major disappointment if it turns out to be true.

I did enjoy this though!

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Warburton is pushing the line that the category wants to be a team player, rather than ride over categories roughshod as happened in the Tony Cochrane era. He argues stability is good for all players.

Casper · 21 Jul 2015, 05:33 (Ref:3559936)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

even though its an immature thread title this probably belongs here

Bathurst 12 Hour deal just the start for V8s

Deal for 12 hour possibly done this week

I think the thread title deserves a better come back than that. I will try to do better next time.

peckstar · 21 Jul 2015, 05:37 (Ref:3559937)

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I think the thread title deserves a better come back than that. I will try to do better next time.

Did you read the article? it explains why the title is wrong.

Casper · 21 Jul 2015, 10:58 (Ref:3559983)

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Did you read the article? it explains why the title is wrong.

My interpretation was it was exactly that, SC blinked first. They were afraid if they did not gain control they would not own the premier motorsport event in Oz.

bludvl_x19 · 21 Jul 2015, 14:29 (Ref:3560032)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

That would be a major disappointment if it turns out to be true.

I did enjoy this though!

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Warburton is pushing the line that the category wants to be a team player, rather than ride over categories roughshod as happened in the Tony Cochrane era. He argues stability is good for all players.

He is correct in that stability is a good thing for everyone. However, it's not outside the realms of possibility, but the probability is pretty low of V8SC wanting to provide stability and not push their category at the expense of all others. I will be pleasantly surprised if the actions match the words.

dsg · 25 Jul 2015, 07:54 (Ref:3560704)

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Originally Posted by Casper

My interpretation was it was exactly that, SC blinked first. They were afraid if they did not gain control they would not own the premier motorsport event in Oz.

Except it doesn't make sense on a couple of levels.

Identifying an opportunity to expand your business and seizing it is not "blinking" and the 12hr is Australia's premier motorsport event only if you somehow discount the AGP, 1000, MotoGP, and possibly Clipsal.

Mixer · 25 Jul 2015, 08:14 (Ref:3560708)

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Identifying an opportunity to expand your business and seizing it is not "blinking" and the 12hr is Australia's premier motorsport event only if you somehow discount the AGP, 1000, MotoGP, and possibly Clipsal.

Absolutely agreed, I love the B12hr but it is still a fringe event.

Casper · 25 Jul 2015, 14:58 (Ref:3560763)

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Absolutely agreed, I love the B12hr but it is still a fringe event.

It has more long range potential for growth and international recognition than the whole V8 SC series. The V8's will never be more than a domestic series with very little international recognition. It is really a diversification if it takes place as both have totally different objectives.

Mixer · 25 Jul 2015, 15:00 (Ref:3560765)

In your opinion, which I disagree with.

Casper · 25 Jul 2015, 15:02 (Ref:3560766)

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In your opinion, which I disagree with.

It is a free world, insular thinking never achieved growth.

Mixer · 25 Jul 2015, 15:08 (Ref:3560769)

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It is a free world, insular thinking never achieved growth.

I don't disagree with the potential of the B12hr, but your statement about V8Supercars is blinkered and just doesn't stand up.