Caltex Cruncha - Page 2

RaceTime · 11 Oct 2002, 08:52 (Ref:400978)

Seton 5 - As I explained before - they have to get approval from *every* team running to use the old car.

Obviously there are some (or just 1???) that don't want them to run.

RaceTime · 11 Oct 2002, 09:05 (Ref:400984)

See seperate thread with full story in....

jetsetter · 11 Oct 2002, 09:05 (Ref:400985)

You've got to wonder how many more teams will give Gardner a chance. I feel sorry for Besnard as he had a real good shot at winning the race only to have some over rated ex Bike Racer ruin it for him before the start.

Airhead · 11 Oct 2002, 09:35 (Ref:401002)

A little bit rough on Gardner guys, on his talent i hasten to add not his personality. 2000 pole setter and clear run away leader in the early stages of the race. Is he brilliant, certainly not. But he is not a complete fool either. Apparently it was a "accident".

DNQ · 11 Oct 2002, 11:33 (Ref:401024)

Huge shame, certainly Gardner doesnt have to accept the blame, just pure luck the car broke at that part of the track...looked like a big one, how smashed up was that car!?

The Tool Man · 11 Oct 2002, 11:35 (Ref:401026)

I think you mean pure BAD luck - DNQ

Airhead · 11 Oct 2002, 11:40 (Ref:401032)

I think your right Timmy, bad luck.

The Tool Man · 11 Oct 2002, 11:45 (Ref:401039)

Met the guy in his coke commodore days and a few times since , cant say I like his personality but he doens t like mine either. He has some talent and its a shame to see this happen to anyone regardless of who they are or what you think of him, just grateful his still able to live and celebrate his next Birthday

StuiE · 11 Oct 2002, 17:38 (Ref:401281)

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Originally posted by jetsetter
only to have some over rated ex Bike Racer ruin it for him before the start.

If he can race competitivly in JGTC, surely he must have some sort of talent, or is that just luck?

mtpanorama · 11 Oct 2002, 20:42 (Ref:401417)

I spoke to noe of the Havoline crew yesterday and got the story on what happenend. They have a switch in the car which is mounted under the drivers seat the protrudes forward by about an inch for when they are doing a pad change. This switch blockes the front brakes so it is easier to get the pads out. When Wayne has gotten into the car he has somehow managed to to hit this switch and turn the front brakes off. Theswitch has been in the same spot last year and this year and no one else has managed to do this.

. So wayne has left the pits and gone up mountian straight and had a go at the brakes and all he got was rears. The computer readout shows him have 3 goes at the brakes and the line for the fronts didnt move.

The roll cage in the car is broken in at least 5 places. The floor looks like a crumpled peice of paper, the seat was broken. The dash was broken in 2 places. They had to cut the left rear wheel off the car as the wishbone was punched thru the tyre and rim. None of the doors are useable.Even the air jacks on the car were stuffed.
The team now have 8 days to build an unpainted shell that they have in the workshop. Some of the team have already left to go and start work

Aslo from another team member...... we were all hoping the wayne wouldnt be able to make it, so simon (wills) could stay in the team, gardner is just a pain in the arse to work with and tells you nothing, where simon was a great guy to work with....

Gunslinger · 11 Oct 2002, 21:00 (Ref:401429)

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Aslo from another team member...... we were all hoping the wayne wouldnt be able to make it, so simon (wills) could stay in the team, gardner is just a pain in the arse to work with and tells you nothing, where simon was a great guy to work with..

Yeah even in his bike days he was a ar#ehole. Give it up Wayne. Gotta feel for Besnard and the Stone bros. All the years i've been watching the Aussie series, and in particular the in car shots, what is the first thing you see a driver do on a out lap? You got it. TEST THE GOD-DAMN BRAKES MAN!!!!

Gunslinger · 11 Oct 2002, 21:01 (Ref:401430)

What do trucks and race-cars have in common?

Flaggie · 11 Oct 2002, 23:56 (Ref:401573)

Also makes you wonder whether they could maybe move the switch somewhere where that wouldn't happen.

And as for testing the brakes, he's just got in a car, presumably Besnard has said all was fine, so why would you even think to test the brakes?

Not a huge Gardner fan. He is a boorish pig at the best of times, but this one is just a flat out accident. Cant really blame him for this one.

Gunslinger · 12 Oct 2002, 00:14 (Ref:401588)

Hi Flaggie, i don't know but every incar shot i've seen (looking at the pedals) have shown the driver checking the brake pedal on exit from pitlane. And also halfway down a straight. Makes sense to me and we would've had a top Ford still in the race. Gotta admit it, Gardner must be pretty embaressed?

Crash Test · 12 Oct 2002, 03:59 (Ref:401681)

I must say that Wills seemed very happy and approachable in the 500.

I thought that they had an option on the Mundy car, to get that back in case there was any dramas...

Flaggie · 12 Oct 2002, 04:03 (Ref:401685)

Possibly, Who knows. Even if he did test em at low speed in pit lane, he might have missed the fact they were working all that well cause at low speed the backs would have provided enough force to stop the car....

Crashy, they probably do, but to do it they would need permission from every other competitor to do it. One says no and ya cant do it.

The word on the Bingle: As us Flaggies tend to say: "It aint gonna buff out....."

Crash Test · 12 Oct 2002, 04:08 (Ref:401690)

Nono, I mean to get the Mundy car back for the Gold Coast.

RaceTime · 12 Oct 2002, 05:46 (Ref:401763)

One team said no - no guessing which one it was.....

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